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HELP FOR TROUBLESHOOTING AN ERROR CODE

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My Yeti ( 2.0 TDI 4X4 ) went into limp mode couple of weeks back. ECU scan displays an error message "Sensor reference voltage B P0651 00 [167] OPEN CIRCUIT". It looks like a wiring issue or sensor problem. Technicians ruled out ECU failure, but  unable to locate the trouble. Any possible solutions ?

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Year of manufacture and engine code are handy details to add.

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1 hour ago, Wino said:

Year of manufacture and engine code are handy details to add.

Thanks. It is 2013 Model 2.0 TDI 4X4 , 140 Bhp Yeti. Attached VCDS full screen showing the Controller Codes.  Hope this helps.  Please advise.

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That may be enough info to work out your engine code, and so find the correct wiring info.

 

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Sorry, can't find anything that obviously corresponds with "Sensor reference voltage B" in the wiring information.

Only thing I could guess at is that it's a 5V reference from the engine ECU going to various sensors/actuators including the throttle valve (pin 1, yellow/blue wire) so maybe check if that is present and correct if you have a multimeter.

It seems to start from pin 25 of a 60-way connector of the engine ECU.

 

But... if that is sensor reference voltage B, I'm not sure what sensor reference voltage A might be, so probably not very useful info, I'm afraid.

Surely the first thing to find out is which sensor is given a false/incorrect reading?
Is that 4124?

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All yours Shirley.

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1 hour ago, Llanigraham said:

Surely the first thing to find out is which sensor is given a false/incorrect reading?
Is that 4124?

Thanks for the responses.  That is exactly what I am looking for. Is there a reference document to look for the sensor code ?  I understand that particular sensor should be a NC contact that is kept OPEN at the moment, which prevents the turbo from turning ON. It could be a faulty sensor, or a broken wire going to that sensor.  If I pull out  sensor cables one by one and scan every time, it should give an error corresponding to that specific sensor I isolated.  By this trial and error method, I may be able to find out the faulty sensor, but it is a tedious job.  I happened to read somewhere that this error could be from 'Throttle Body Sensor' or 'EGR Valve'. Hope someone knows how to pinpoint the device from that error code.  

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I think that reference voltage will be used by more than one sensor, and that fault code is not - as far as I can see - telling you anything about which ones are involved.

Test the +5V at the one I suggested, if it is reasonably easy to access and back-probe while ignition is switched on or engine running.

 

26 minutes ago, GOPAN said:

I understand that particular sensor should be a NC contact that is kept OPEN at the moment

I don't think this is true. I think here  'Open' just means that some sensors are behaving as if their +5V is not present.  It's not clear to me why there are not also sensor-specific fault codes for the affected sensors.

 

Were the 'Technicians' you mention in your first post at a Skoda Dealership?

 

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1 minute ago, Wino said:

I think that reference voltage will be used by more than one sensor, and that fault code is not - as far as I can see - telling you anything about which ones are involved.

Test the +5V at the one I suggested, if it is reasonably easy to access and back-probe while ignition is switched on or engine running.

 

I don't think this is true. I think here  'Open' just means that some sensors are behaving as if their +5V is not present.  It's not clear to me why there are not also sensor-specific fault codes for the affected sensors.

 

Were the 'Technicians' you mention in your first post at a Skoda Dealership?

 

Yes. The car is still in limping mode. Currently being attended by a Skoda service centre.  Today is Sunday. So, we'll try these points tomorrow.

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Update on the issue.  The failed component was identified as Boost Pressure Sensor. Replaced and problem solved. 

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Thanks for letting us know what fixed it. Could be very useful to others who see the same fault code in future.

From what I can see, that sensor (charge/boost pressure, G31) doesn't share any wiring with any others, except it's earth, which is shared with the intake air temperature sender (G42) which is combined in the same 4-pin package. All four wires go to engine ECU and nowhere else.

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