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New 245 manual or dsg?

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11 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

All well and good the 7 speed DSG ticking over at 1,800rpm at 70mph on the motorway but way below the 2,600 actual torque maximum so demand a quick burst of acceleration and it will kick down one or even 2 gears to give you the acceleration you expect in a Vrs. My manual sits at 2,300rpm at 70mph just below the max torque and provides instant acceleration even in 6th gear. No unnecessary downchanging and wasting of fuel.:clap:

Nice low revs.. I'd have said more like 1900 revs actually owning the car in 7th at 70 but in any case its not primed ready to go in Drive/Normal but generally its not needed, if in sport it would keep you out of 7th in any case so revs won't be that low. Quickest way to get it moving if needed prod the loud pedal and quickly one or two down on the left hand paddle none of this waiting for kick down business. Its all about learning how to drive with it which is of course completely different to a manual.

 

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  • Manual every day for me. Total control, never in the wrong gear and a more involving driving experience. Where i live has little traffic so that helps too but each to their own !

  • Welcome. Go drive a 245 manual and DSG maybe and see what you like.  As to slow to react and clunky, i think not.

13 minutes ago, Scotty72 said:

Nice low revs.. I'd have said more like 1900 revs actually owning the car in 7th at 70 but in any case its not primed ready to go in Drive/Normal but generally its not needed, if in sport it would keep you out of 7th in any case so revs won't be that low. Quickest way to get it moving if needed prod the loud pedal and quickly one or two down on the left hand paddle none of this waiting for kick down business. Its all about learning how to drive with it which is of course completely different to a manual.

 

But the best (as in most fun) is to blip the paddles a few times whilst making  a "PEW PEW PEW" noise; which never fails to make the kids chuckle and boiler room 4 soon fires up. 

I see no issues for certain type of hybrids to be still manual, apologize for the off-topic, but it is rather interesting. I see two possibilities:

1. some mild hybrids have electric engine in the transmission, after gearbox, around mass wheel. Technically type of transmission doesn't affect it.

2. engines can be in the wheels, to recuperate braking energy, totally not related to the transmission whatsever

 

Market will decide, just underlining that technically it is possible. Why not have on my vRS in the back 2 weak electric engines, instead of rear brake disks? They can brake strong enough, no brake pads needed to be replaced ever, can give extra grip from stand still, especially on the snow. Just thinking out loud. :)

 

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