Does any one know the capacity on the fabia 1.6? 

 

Looked in the manual and it has the capacity for the oil/coolant/fuel tank etc but not the brake fluid and need to know how much to get to drain and redo the whole system. 

  1 or 2 max litre bottles should be plenty to drain, flush and refill doing it the old fashioned way..........

 

In the workshop manual, a full drain / flush / refill using VAG brake tool will flush 1.15 L of oil "out" which includes the reservoir.

Edited 6 March, 20197 yr by UrbanPanzer

1 bottle (1 Litre is not enough) ended up being 1.5L from memory 

I agree with above, I tend to draw out as much fluid as I can from the reservoir, then pressure bleed maybe 0.5 litre from the longer lines and 0.25 litre from each of the shorter lines and the clutch (okay I'm lazy, clutch ignored usually!).

 

There was a "VW Group script" somewhere listing quantities of fluid out of each calliper/cylinder but I don't think that it said which size of model they were meaning.

 

I find one of the "problems" with bleeding brakes every 2 years is that you do not see a change in the fluid being dumped out into a container - in the "good old days" you found that the initial quantity of fluid was black/brown and changed to good clear fluid!!  Still you should find that the clarity/colour of the new fluid as seen looking into the reservoir has changed!

Thanks guys.

 

Fluid is only about 4/5 months old, pads and discs more recent but im not happy with the cars braking performance. Pedal travel is too long and no bite from the brakes so changing everything fluid/pads and brake lines.

If you feel the brakes don't have enough bite, look into alternative pads. Theyre most likely to make the biggest difference. Fluid only a few months old is highly unlikely to be your issues unless someone is not bleeding your brakes fully, or theres some other reason. You don't need to replace brake lines unless they are shot. You might replace any rubber brake line parts with say Goodridge hoses, but in your case its better to find out the reason for your issue rather than just throwing money at everything. Its a whle since you posted your story, so would you like to bring us up to date and tell us your findings?

The bottles of the top stuff are usually 500ml, so given the cost, most on here are interested to know what is the minimum they need rather than overbuy. Its not great to just keep brake fluid around and whilst a sealed bottle might be alright, I myself and not convinced I would want to keep it for the next time!

33 minutes ago, OctaviaVRS2 said:

The bottles of the top stuff are usually 500ml, so given the cost, most on here are interested to know what is the minimum they need rather than overbuy. Its not great to just keep brake fluid around and whilst a sealed bottle might be alright, I myself and not convinced I would want to keep it for the next time!

 

Don't bother buying expensive snake oils, stick with box fresh bog standard brake fluid, for the best performance freshness is the most important quality by far.

40 minutes ago, OctaviaVRS2 said:

If you feel the brakes don't have enough bite, look into alternative pads. Theyre most likely to make the biggest difference. Fluid only a few months old is highly unlikely to be your issues unless someone is not bleeding your brakes fully, or theres some other reason. You don't need to replace brake lines unless they are shot. You might replace any rubber brake line parts with say Goodridge hoses, but in your case its better to find out the reason for your issue rather than just throwing money at everything. Its a whle since you posted your story, so would you like to bring us up to date and tell us your findings?

It was the fluid as I boiled it at donington all info is in the project thread it’s not your average 1.6tdi fabia. 

4 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

 

Don't bother buying expensive snake oils, stick with box fresh bog standard brake fluid, for the best performance freshness is the most important quality by far.

I use Castrol srf react at £60 a litre 

1 hour ago, AMD87 said:

It was the fluid as I boiled it at donington all info is in the project thread it’s not your average 1.6tdi fabia. 

I use Castrol srf react at £60 a litre 😲

 

WTF!!!

6 minutes ago, UrbanPanzer said:

 

WTF!!!

Best stuff on the market 

 

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-740-castrol-react-srf-racing-dot-3-4-car-brake-fluid.aspx

8 hours ago, AMD87 said:

Best stuff on the market 

 

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-740-castrol-react-srf-racing-dot-3-4-car-brake-fluid.aspx

 

Obviously you have 'special needs', my advice was intended for 'normal' road users.

2 hours ago, sepulchrave said:

 

Obviously you have 'special needs', my advice was intended for 'normal' road users.

It’s a daily road car. 

Daily Use and Track Use of a modified vehicle with more power and upgraded brakes obviously or you would be fine with £10 a litre stuff on UK roads,

gosh, I look at my cheap Pagid 5L bottle for £20 and think to myself. Is this horse pi55 ? I noticed an improvement since my fluid must have been 5 years old already.

Edited 15 August, 20205 yr by Bertie90

3 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:

Daily Use and Track Use of a modified vehicle with more power and upgraded brakes obviously or you would be fine with £10 a litre stuff on UK roads,

Standard size brakes 

Standard sized brakes, standard road use? Are you barmy or made of money! Sure, if you are a pop star/footballer/lottery winner, driving a Bentley but for a bog standard set up on a Fabia? 

Thats like giving a Cuban cigar to a street bum, who is picking up fag-butts to make a roll up!

50 minutes ago, mrgf said:

Standard sized brakes, standard road use? Are you barmy or made of money! Sure, if you are a pop star/footballer/lottery winner, driving a Bentley but for a bog standard set up on a Fabia? 

Thats like giving a Cuban cigar to a street bum, who is picking up fag-butts to make a roll up!

why change something if it works fine. youre more than welcome to look at the vbox logs and compare it to factory built race cars that show theres only a couple of metres of a difference in braking performance.

3 hours ago, Bertie90 said:

gosh, I look at my cheap Pagid 5L bottle for £20 and think to myself. Is this horse pi55 ? I noticed an improvement since my fluid must have been 5 years old already.

 

There's nothing wrong with that but you'll end up throwing most of it away because it's gone stale in storage.

1 hour ago, sepulchrave said:

 

There's nothing wrong with that but you'll end up throwing most of it away because it's gone stale in storage.

Used it for my second car as well 🙂

@AMD87  You are taking the Michael really in saying 'It's a daily road car'.  Obviously all Road Registered cars can be used daily, weekly or never.

You then go on about the Race Cars.

So basically you have a road cars as a daily and go play with it on tracks and have standard brake by size.

?

Do you have standard brakes as in hoses, calipers, pads for your 'daily road and whenever track use'.?

4 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

@AMD87  You are taking the Michael really in saying 'It's a daily road car'.  Obviously all Road Registered cars can be used daily, weekly or never.

You then go on about the Race Cars.

So basically you have a road cars as a daily and go play with it on tracks and have standard brake by size.

?

Do you have standard brakes as in hoses, calipers, pads for your 'daily road and whenever track use'.?

The build threads there you've seen it and commented on it and its won trophies at MSUK level race events. Funny how its went from me asking about the capacity of the braking system to people telling me the parts ive been using on my car for years and pretty successfully to win motorsport events are wrong yet probably have never even entered a motorsport uk event in their life or have a race licence 🤣

We know what you are doing, seen the video's, read the posts, seen the Social Media, you can hardly miss it, hardly a sleeper!.  

?

So what is the stuff with just a Road Car.   It is but used for much more,

 

@AMD87

8 members (i think) posting in this thread, 9 including you and i suspect you know nout much about what Motorsport events they have or have not done, what licences they hold or if you can p!ss higher than them.

Edited 15 August, 20205 yr by e-Roottoot

Ok, I get it, it's a Mimi thread...

1 hour ago, e-Roottoot said:

We know what you are doing, seen the video's, read the posts, seen the Social Media, you can hardly miss it, hardly a sleeper!.  

?

So what is the stuff with just a Road Car.   It is but used for much more,

 

@AMD87

8 members (i think) posting in this thread, 9 including you and i suspect you know nout much about what Motorsport events they have or have not done, what licences they hold or if you can p!ss higher than them.

Not really the purpose of the thread was to find out the capacity of the brake fluid system nearly a year and a half ago. 
 

not for someone to then pop up  telling me that I need to fix other stuff on my car as it wouldn’t have been the fluid when I knew fine well my issue was with the fluid over a year and a half ago. 😂