3 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

The OP is not an employee of VW Group / Finance, the Dealership or dealership group. 

Yes is i a jolly bad show smoking in other peoples vehicles IMO.

Also driving them like a hire car, remapping them while you have a loan of them or taking them to Track Days. 1/4 RWB's etc.

Bad show fitting tuning boxes or chip tuning vehicles you rent for a year or 3.

Smoking in work vehicles was made illegal under the Health Act in 2006 which banned smoking in all vehicles used primarily for business purposes by more than one person (which is exactly what happened above).

'Works vehicles'.

Demonstrators owned by Manufactures and maybe a Dealership eventually, and driven by employees and tax breaks if used for Customers, Sales purposes.

Customers are not Employees', Customers can be asked to provide 'insurance cover' as not covered under the Group Insurance supposedly.

Check some, some are 'First registered' in a 'employees name' not the Dealership Group.

Ex Management cars never driven by 'Their Management'.  Leased to Individuals, Fleet, Self Employed etc.

 

So Company Car, Works Vehicle needs checking really.  

 

VW Group have a lot of cars on loan to people that bought a 1.5TSI EVO or leased one, not as a Company Car or for Business Use or Commercial etc.

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So are smokers that bought a car that is so unsafe that it awaits 'Software Updates' now deprived of possibly an early death from smoking in their own vehicle.

 

Maybe those that have not had their own car for months but want a ciggy / cigar / spliff and cant have one while in the car borrowed should hit VW Group for extra compensation.

Edited 8 June, 20197 yr by Skoffski

Some years ago I recall a friend, who ran a Land Rover dealership, telling me about an ioniser he had bought to use in cars to remove the smell of burnt tobacco .  Left in the vehicle overnight, it apparently worked a treat.

When i started as an apprentice i was sent to buy the onions and lemons that we halved and put in cars of smokers before they went out front for sale.

I just pinched the lumps of coal we used as well.

The slightest whiff of cigarette in a car is a deal breaker for many. The smell is repulsive for most non-smokers, and as you are a smoker your sense of smell is damaged so you probably won't detect a smell in the car. Kind of surprised you would smoke in a demo op, it's not a rental car where anything goes. I think the dealer is well within their rights to rectify any smoke damage.

Use Iqos - they don’t smell after leaving windows open for a while 😉 

21 hours ago, Greezy56 said:

 

As to the windows open for a month, the vehicle would be filled with so many contaminates such as dampness, insects, car exhaust  pollution, tramps urine. Yet you still would be able to detect the nano particles given off by one cigarette 30 days prior. GET YOURSELF ON CSI MY FRIEND ,, your talents are wasted here!!!  

 

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Edited 8 June, 20197 yr by J.R.

14 hours ago, digifish said:

 

Any non-smoker will confirm this. It's not CSI at all. You smoke in a car and it will take months to disparate without deodorizing. Same for hotel rooms. There are so many soft-materials that trap the smell. This is not a moral judgement, its just the facts of life. Cigarette smoke is nothing like the smells that have wafted through the car while driving it. Same for wood-smoke. You park the car with the windows open near a camp fire, same thing.  

 

 

Any non smoker would instantly detect it, worse still is an ex smoker who stopped early enough to retain their sense of smell, its been 40 years for me but the smell has become even more repugnant, probably because the pull of the addiction is strong as ever.

 

It breaks my heart when someone smokes in one of my apartments that I built from the ground up with my own hands, if I were renting cars I would sell every contaminated one on.

To steer this back toward the OP's original question of what can they charge. I've obviously not got any direct experience, but the closest I can come to it is when I lived mostly out of a suitcase because of  work, about ten years ago. The non-smoking hotel rooms I stayed in always had signs saying cigarette contamination would lead to an extra £100 being added to the bill. I've no idea if it was in the T&C's or not as it didn't affect me.

 

Have you spoken to the dealer  @Greezy56?

On ‎08‎/‎06‎/‎2019 at 21:58, J.R. said:

 

Any non smoker would instantly detect it, worse still is an ex smoker who stopped early enough to retain their sense of smell, its been 40 years for me but the smell has become even more repugnant, probably because the pull of the addiction is strong as ever.

 

It breaks my heart when someone smokes in one of my apartments that I built from the ground up with my own hands, if I were renting cars I would sell every contaminated one on.

 

Dealer wants £30 , I said ok and I donated an extra £20 to a charity of their choice.  I think lesson learned and all done and dusted.

Why did you donate to charity? That's hilarious. 

14 hours ago, Otto_Octavius said:

Why did you donate to charity? That's hilarious. 

 

In my opinion is that he knows what he did was wrong and clearly he has accepted that and just feels it is the right thing to do.

Credit to Greezy56 for that. He never once reacted to the negative comments he got but simply "fell" on his sword.👍

58 minutes ago, Danny 57 said:

 

In my opinion is that he knows what he did was wrong and clearly he has accepted that and just feels it is the right thing to do.

Credit to Greezy56 for that. He never once reacted to the negative comments he got but simply "fell" on his sword.👍

100% agree. In this thread @Greezy56 has demonstrated the most mature and reasonable response that I think I’ve ever seen on the Internet. 

 

Good on you. Not many who hold their hands up, accept responsibility and even try to make amends 👏

55 minutes ago, maffyou said:

100% agree. In this thread @Greezy56 has demonstrated the most mature and reasonable response that I think I’ve ever seen on the Internet. 

 

Good on you. Not many who hold their hands up, accept responsibility and even try to make amends 👏

Exactly true men own up to making a mistake (unlike Seb Vettel) and boys blame others for their mistakes.

😀

Greezy has gone from zero to hero!  Why can't the internet always be like this?

THANKS GUYS for the pos comments , I feel on this site we should come together to help each other whether in the right or wrong. I did wrong and I was worried about the outcome and embarrassment as iam actively working with the dealer to get into a new car.

 

Greezy  

31 minutes ago, Greezy56 said:

THANKS GUYS for the pos comments , I feel on this site we should come together to help each other whether in the right or wrong. I did wrong and I was worried about the outcome and embarrassment as iam actively working with the dealer to get into a new car.

 

Greezy  

In fairness I feel the dealer will be appreciative of your gesture and also be receptive to doing you a deal, e.g; "I really like the car but I expect a discount....the interior stinks of fag smoke" 

15 minutes ago, penguin17 said:

In fairness I feel the dealer will be appreciative of your gesture and also be receptive to doing you a deal, e.g; "I really like the car but I expect a discount....the interior stinks of fag smoke" 

Trust you to lower the tone of a few hours of sincere appreciation with frivolous humour (thats usually where I come in).

Last post on this , this scenario has now made me try to give up the fags big time , I didn't buy any today and am tryin like F to not tomorrow. I am currently vaping apple crush and its not that bad.

I always hated smoking but loved it, addiction ! a selfish addiction at that. Let me tell you what I was spending on fags , £8.80 per day for 20 fags ( btw that's the cheapest uk packet) ,, do the math as our American brothers say.

 

 

Thanks Danny57

2 minutes ago, Greezy56 said:

Last post on this , this scenario has now made me try to give up the fags big time , I didn't buy any today and am tryin like F to not tomorrow. I am currently vaping apple crush and its not that bad.

I always hated smoking but loved it, addiction ! a selfish addiction at that. Let me tell you what I was spending on fags , £8.80 per day for 20 fags ( btw that's the cheapest uk packet) ,, do the math as our American brothers say.

 

 

Thanks Danny57

Just to put that into some perspective my very powerful Octavia consumes £8.75 of Shell's finest Nitro plus per day on my 52 mile commute.

8 hours ago, Greezy56 said:

Last post on this , this scenario has now made me try to give up the fags big time , I didn't buy any today and am tryin like F to not tomorrow. I am currently vaping apple crush and its not that bad.

I always hated smoking but loved it, addiction ! a selfish addiction at that. Let me tell you what I was spending on fags , £8.80 per day for 20 fags ( btw that's the cheapest uk packet) ,, do the math as our American brothers say.

 

 

Thanks Danny57

Good luck !

Lighting blue touch paper . . . . 

 

While happy that the wrong has been admitted I see smokers as just ahead of dog owners as some of the most selfish people around.  Their addiction comes first.

 

I am  a non-smoker and have never smoked, my father used to, my mother stopped when my brother was born.  Smokers can't smell anything, especially themselves, but they inflict it on the rest of us.  I have moved queues in supermarkets to get away from, not the smell of a cigarette, but the smell of a smoker.  Similarly we have one at work and I avoid being anywhere near him.  I am sure my mother in law thought to the day she died (of lung cancer) that I didn't know she smoked because she never, ever,  smoked when I was present - what she didn't understand was that no matter how much air freshener she used or how often she decorated  the smell gave her away.

 

Seriously, if you smoke ask a non-smoking friend to be honest with you about what you smell like - and you won't like the answer. 

I can safely say (as a dog owner) that I am not addicted to dogs. I am not a serial dogger, so to speak...

8 hours ago, IJWS15 said:

Lighting blue touch paper . . . . 

 

While happy that the wrong has been admitted I see smokers as just ahead of dog owners as some of the most selfish people around.  Their addiction comes first.

You’re familiar with the concept of an addiction? You might as well have just said the sky is blue. 

 

FWIW not all smokers are like this. My gran (who lived with us) smoked almost until she died at 96 years of age (from dementia and old age) and she made sure she never smelt bad. 

 

My wife also smokes but likewise, she doesn’t smell of it and never ever smokes in the house. Even if it’s pouring with rain she’ll go outside to have one because she doesn’t want the house to smell of it. 

 

I’ve had colleagues who smoke, but don’t smell of it. It is possible to smoke and not smell bad from it, not everyone who smokes is a “dirty” smoker or selfish.