Hello all. I’m fairly new to skoda. My oil change is due soon and i’m just wondering wich oil is the best for diesel yeti 170bhp with dpf. Engine code cfja. 

Thanks 

You require oil to VW 507 00, so that is 5w 30 FS III  (long life.)    Correct spec is best, brand makes no difference.

Just make sure the oil is ‘approved’ by VW for 507 00, rather than “meets the requirements of”, “recommended for use where” or any other similar language.

Meets and exceeds will do VW507. 

 

As the Approved list from VW has plenty oils and really you need to look very far and wide to find some dodgy oil that has been put in containers from oil producers that does not do the job.

 

Sadly you can get online and from dodgy suppliers / retailers end up buying Hooky oil in a Castrol, Mobil container saying 'Approved to VW507 00'. 

 

As it is just a pity that VW 170 engines were not as reliable in life as some cheaper oils that might not appear on their 'approval list' / or be approved.

 

Might as well be safe.

Go into ASDA and buy the 5w 30 FF III that they sell that does 'meet VW507 00 spec'.  It says so on the container.

*Read the spec to see that your car / engine is among the 'most' that is written on the front panel.*

Edited 19 August, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

Thanks guys. I wanna go for castrol edge 5-30 LL. It says it’s approved so hopefully all good to go. Many thanks for all advices cheers 

Dealership will use Quantum 5w 30 FS III which is approved, recommended just as the over priced and over reputation Castol is.

The Castrol is approved and is fine.

Fuchs Titan gt1 pro c-3 xtl on eBay is £26 for 5 ltrs delivered. It's approved, and is also the oil used to rebrand as Quantum.

You know that for sure?  Yes, Fuchs currently make the Quantum oils, but it doesn’t necessarily mean they simply repackage their own-branded stuff.

Not sure, no. But can you realistically believe they manufacture an oil to VW specification and sell it as their own. Then they make a different oil to the same specification and sell it to VW as Quantum in a different bottle?

Yes, I absolutely can believe that because that is what happens.  An oil company relies on its brand and various differentiated benefits to make a premium.  They won't (necessarily) give that away to a third party who sell it effectively in competition to their own brand.

You seem to be missing the point that it's VW's specification which they're manufacturing to. They can hardly keep it a secret from the people who gave them the specification, can they...

If they were manufacturing and rebranding for Halfords (for example) an oil to VW spec, then they could conceivably make it a lesser product as Halfords could be selling it in direct competition to their own product on the same shelves. But I'm not convinced they'll be playing hunt the thimble with the company who specified the product to Fuchs initially. Unless VW specifically asked them to blend it different to Fuchs own oil.

Believe me, I have first hand experience of this whole process and business.  VW want oils that meet a specification list to offer as Quantum branded products.  The supplier (currently Fuchs) provides these products but they don't have to provide the exact same ones they sell under their own brand.  And having an oil meet a performance specification doesn’t mean you have to reveal what’s in it, just the performance credentials that allow you to hold the various approvals.

 

VW’s specification is based on performance, not manufacturing.  They say it has to be (say) VW 504 00/507 00, meaning it has had to pass a long list of demanding lab and engine tests.  They don’t say how the oil has to be made.

 

I don’t know if Fuchs supply the same formulations to Quantum as they sell themselves - you can’t assume they do is all I’m saying.

By the same yardstick, you can't assume the oils are different, can you.

In the same way that Mann make filters for themselves and also rebranded for the OEM motor trade, or NGK spark plugs rebranded for VW, or any other such componennts. It would seem logical to have as little specificality as practicable unless the customer has demands and needs outside the standard of production of the supplier.

The oilman site has really good advice on engine oil … https://www.opieoils.co.uk/products-for-your-vehicle.aspx

10 hours ago, Rustynuts said:

By the same yardstick, you can't assume the oils are different, can you.

 

Indeed, which is why when you stated...

 

On 20/08/2019 at 05:51, Rustynuts said:

Fuchs Titan gt1 pro c-3 xtl on eBay is £26 for 5 ltrs delivered. It's approved, and is also the oil used to rebrand as Quantum.

 

...I asked...

 

On 20/08/2019 at 07:10, weasley said:

You know that for sure?  Yes, Fuchs currently make the Quantum oils, but it doesn’t necessarily mean they simply repackage their own-branded stuff.

 

Your statement was written as a fact, I was simply asking if this was a fact or an assumption.  It looks like it was the latter.

 

I have been in the oil business, specifically the research, development and technical support thereof, for over 27 years.  As I said, I don’t know what Fuchs offer to Quantum, but neither, it seems, do you.  You may be right - it might be the exact same stuff in the Quantum bottle as in the Fuchs one, but you can’t assume it is.  I know of many similar situations where this assumption would not be true.

Truth of the matter is, they are just dirty diesels from before they had to get cleaned up.

Use OIl that VW recommended and other Manufacturers that were not and are not German recommend other oils, and have more reliable engines.

 

So they need oil, coolant and Derv.   It really is not rocket science as much as the Oil Producers or Employees or ex employees would like the gullible to believe.

Castrol is not the Ultimate, Japanese Manufacturers recommend what they do, French will recommend Total, in the US it will be other brands.

VW have more than a little interest in promoting what they do promote.

 

VW Group needed the Euro 6 Temp D results for WLTP / RDE and had to start filling VW 508 / 509  so 0w 20 FS IV at the factories and if any vehicles being imported like to the UK might be pulled for 'random testing' as they were getting done and are.  VW paid the UK Government to have those tests after they had been caught pretty after the Defeat Device with Euro 6 vehicles with Implausible / Irregular results..

It was all about getting the test results without needing Diesel in the Oil at Test Facilities on rolling roads with the TDI's as Audi, VW, SEAT might have occasionally done...

Edited 21 August, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot