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VCDS - CAN gateway and radio related faults?

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I got a VCDS scan from a fellow Briskoda member, TTJD, and am wondering if some of the faults thrown up might be connected? I've only pasted the specific addresses related to my query below.

 

I'm wondering if the CAN gateway fault might be related to the radio fault and point me in the right direction for where to look for the single wire problem? I've read that this CAN gateway fault can lead to battery drain because the single wire means some modules don't go into sleep mode when the car is locked and that finding the wires causing the fault can be very tricky (they seem to often be in the door pillars) - so was hoping perhaps the radio fault is linked and might suggest where to start looking or whether these faults are likely unrelated? I guess I'm curious to know as I can live without a bass speaker and the AUX is working 100% so I'm not too concerned about pulling off door panels and aux units to fix the CAN gateway if they are unlikely to be related issues.

 

I know there's the diagnostics forum but it doesn't seem to get much traffic and the posts I've found on Briskoda that get replies to diagnostic queries related to specific models seem to get more replies when posted in the model specific forum - hope that's ok.

 

 

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 S    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0210  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 3400K08C11035F
   Coding: E9A1FF06000602003303
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 377AF09E46D6C4F918-8062

1 Fault Found:
00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 175
                    Mileage: 274667 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.11.25
                    Time: 09:39:34

 

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 156 B    HW: 3T0 035 156 B
   Component: BOLERO        006 0036  
   Revision: 0A001001    Serial number: SKZ1Z3H3555162
   Coding: 0D0004000004
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 2D56D2F6748A7E2972-8078

2 Faults Found:
00872 - Bass Speaker Rear Left (R15)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 29
                    Reset counter: 166
                    Mileage: 267388 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.10.09
                    Time: 14:44:05

03138 - Input AUX IN
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 29
                    Reset counter: 166
                    Mileage: 267388 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.10.09
                    Time: 14:44:05


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Looking at the freeze frame data there, all those faults are from 6 years ago, so probably fixed long ago and never cleared. For peace of mind you could get them cleared and see if they come back.

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Sorry should have said that the codes were cleared and then a re-scan was done and those codes came back.

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Can't edit the above.

 

chimaera that's raised another query - is the date the faults first appear matched to the mileage that was on the car when the fault first appeared or when the fault was last 'recorded' by the car? Those two faults are from 2013 and the km for those faults say 274,667km and 267,388km.

 

When I bought this only a few weeks back the odometer read something around 275,000km. If the date those faults first appeared is matched to the km at the time those faults first appeared (6 years ago) that would suggest the car is clocked?

 

When buying it I ran a motorcheck and there was no mileage history recorded for it. The NCT certs that I have for the car go back a few years and show no indication of any clocking.

 

Post #6 on this post in the ross-tech forum suggests the mileage shown is when the fault code was FIRST recorded by the car... which would suggest the car I bought is clocked...

Edited by RubyCubes

1 hour ago, RubyCubes said:

Can't edit the above.

 

chimaera that's raised another query - is the date the faults first appear matched to the mileage that was on the car when the fault first appeared or when the fault was last 'recorded' by the car? Those two faults are from 2013 and the km for those faults say 274,667km and 267,388km.

 

When I bought this only a few weeks back the odometer read something around 275,000km. If the date those faults first appeared is matched to the km at the time those faults first appeared (6 years ago) that would suggest the car is clocked?

 

When buying it I ran a motorcheck and there was no mileage history recorded for it. The NCT certs that I have for the car go back a few years and show no indication of any clocking.

 

Post #6 on this post in the ross-tech forum suggests the mileage shown is when the fault code was FIRST recorded by the car... which would suggest the car I bought is clocked...

I'm not sure about dates vs mileage on the freeze frame. I've just gone back through a few scans from my car and the dates/times can be all over the shop but the mileage is spot on. I'm not 100 % sure where it gets the mileage info from though, whether it's the odometer or the engine ECU: some engine ECUs can compute mileage based on other data and this will vary a bit from the odometer value.

 

That there's no mileage history on the check is a little odd IMO. Something to dig a little deeper on I think.

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Just in case someone else gets spooked by those types of date and mileage VCDS readings, all in all the figures below would suggest no clocking and the VCDS dates and mileage don't match.

 

Car is original 2009 Irish car and the NCT certs show, in km:

  • 2013: no data (surely there should have been a reading in 2013 when it was 4 years old and had it's first NCT?)
  • 2015: 138k
  • 2017: 177k
  • 2018: 242k

 

Stamped service booklet shows services done at, also in km:

  1. 2011: 31k at a main Skoda Dealer (they obviously went with long service intervals...!)
  2. 2012: 60k at a main Skoda Dealer
  3. 2013: 90k at a main Skoda Dealer
  4. 2013: 105k at a main Skoda Dealer
  5. 2014: 118k at a main Skoda Dealer
  6. 2014: 133k at a main Skoda Dealer
  7. 2015: 150k at a main Skoda Dealer
  8. 2016: 167k at a main Skoda Dealer
  9. 2017: 179k at a main Skoda Dealer
  10. 2018: 195k at Indy
  11. 2018: 210k at Indy
  12. 2018: 225k at Indy
  13. 2018: 241k at Indy
  14. 2018: 255k at Indy (guy did a lot of mileage in 2018!)
  15. 2019: 269k at Indy

 

The kms line up in terms of the NCT reading and the later service km reading

  • NCT in January 2015 shows 138k/km and service in July 2015 shows 150k/km
  • NCT in February 2017 shows 177k/km and service in March 2017 shows 179k/km
  • Service in early November 2018 shows 240k/km, NCT in late November 2018 shows 242k/km, and service in February 2019 shows 255k/km

 

 

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