well went ahead and got the remap by chipboost this afternoon. what a difference. the car has so much more power than before and the delivery of it so so smooth. the remap states power gains to 175bhp so a trip to the rollers is on the cards to see. excellent service. the remap was only £200 and he came to my house to do it. even gave me a copy of my old map for keep sake.

daz:thumbup:

Bargain!!!! Was 200quid the full price? Do you know of anyone else that have used them?

Bargain!!!! Was 200quid the full price? Do you know of anyone else that have used them?

ive asked about but no one seems to know then. wouldnt let it put you off though i couldnt fault them. the remap would have only been

Power gains of 175bhp! Thats alright isnt it :P

That sounds nice and cheap and you sound like it's made a good difference.

I'd be interested to see how it measures up on a rolling road.

Power gains of 175bhp! Thats alright isnt it :P

you know what i meant:)

I know, sorry

Did they do any pre & post remap tests? I sense that the time for a remap is near for me and these lot are cheap (but maybe too cheap :confused: )

what do you mean by remap tests?

Well I know of another tuning company who come to your house; they do 0-60 tests before and after the remap and other stuff too.

Just comparing them...

never did any tests like that. i knew how the car felt before the remap so the real test was getting in it after and driving it down the road. he came with me for the drive giving a few pointers on techneque to feel the extra power and no money was handed over untill i was happy. funnly enough he drove down in a remapped fabia vrs he had done also.

daz

Another good example of someone not going to one of the big names and being very happy.

Lower prices for on your doorstep service could be down to cost savings such as lower overheads and so maybe its not a case of some being too cheap, but others too expensive (IMO of course)

I just wonder if most of these smaller companies actually sell the same maps that the bigger companies sell?

I heard that the bigger companies just get them from other third party companies, usually abroad and maybe the only advantage is a rolling road which can make some small differences.

i was told that the remap used on my car was from a contact he had in germany. he had a couple i could choose from with different power gains but the 175 was the highest so went for that one!:P

daz:thumbup:

Another good example of someone not going to one of the big names and being very happy.

Lower prices for on your doorstep service could be down to cost savings such as lower overheads and so maybe its not a case of some being too cheap' date=' but others too expensive (IMO of course)[/quote']

Indeed, companies charge a price that they think the market will bear! I think this is the case with the Jabba ARB, they are the only people making it thus they have a monopoly and are pricing the product at what people will pay. As a comparison you can buy a Saab 9-3 Aero upgraded ARB for about 1/4 the price...

Not necessarily is the price, say, 80% cost and 20% profit What I am trying to say here is that just because the price of something is 500 quid it doesn't mean that a supplier is making a 'fair and reasonable' profit of 20% on that item - in retail profit margins can be huge, sometimes 100-400% of cost.

Daz, about your remap, do you know if it altered both boost and fuelling or did the guy not go into much technical detail?

Indeed, companies charge a price that they think the market will bear! I think this is the case with the Jabba ARB, they are the only people making it thus they have a monopoly and are pricing the product at what people will pay.

Is the Jabba ARB worth 200 quid? Probably - based on everyone's comments so far it seems to make a great difference. Just seemed a lot of money to me at first...

Which is it?

.......even gave me a copy of my old map for keep sake.

daz:thumbup:

Is there anything you can do with this?

Originally Posted by daz_vrs

.......even gave me a copy of my old map for keep sake.

daz

Is there anything you can do with this?

Find out where he lives??

even gave me a copy of my old map for keep sake.

daz:thumbup:

If it was from an 05 model i woudn't mind a copy,

If it was from an 05 model i woudn't mind a copy,

sorry mate 04 model

Indeed' date=' companies charge a price that they think the market will bear! I think this is the case with the Jabba ARB, they are the only people making it thus they have a monopoly and are pricing the product at what people will pay. As a comparison you can buy a Saab 9-3 Aero upgraded ARB for about 1/4 the price...

Not necessarily is the price, say, 80% cost and 20% profit in retail profit margins can be huge, sometimes 100-400% of cost.

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I expected the Jabba product to be 89-110 quid rather than twice that. While they also fabricate in small batches' date=' MP Performance are practically a 'one man band' company, so I imagine their overheads are much lower than Jabba's; maybe this accounts for the price difference... Also, MP Performance wouldn't have had much development cost, if any, as their product is just a heavy duty version of what's already fitted to the Saab's rear end. The stock Saab ARB is made out of...wait for it...rubber :eek: (very thick heavy duty rubber, but rubber nonetheless)!

Is the Jabba ARB worth 200 quid? Probably - based on everyone's comments so far it seems to make a great difference. Just seemed a lot of money to me at first...

[b']Anyway, the main thing is that people are happy with the product and feel that it was money well-spent! If that's the case then fair enough [/b]

Which is it?

While I don't want to upset mods on here (and the OP, Daz) by taking this discussion off topic, I feel I should defend my opinions...

Like I said, as Jabbasport are the only supplier of this part, you have to pay whatever they charge for it. It still seems like a lot of money to me, but if I want the part, I have to pay what Jabba want to charge as they are currently the only supplier of the product. I'll not buy any non-Skoda part til my car is out of warranty, so really it's academic to me for the next three years anyway.

Based upon everyone's feedback and my own experience of an ARB on another car, I am sure the difference in handling of the vehicle makes it a worthwhile buy. That said however, on the basis that MP Performance can do a similar part for 45 quid + shipping, perhaps there is a business opportunity here for someone

Fair play to Jabbasport though for making whatever they can on it; of course they are a business not a charity!

Is there anything you can do with this?

He can hang on to it and have the original uploaded back to the car if they wish to sell the car as standard for example. The maps are not dependant on model year but on the ECU code. Easy to see on the sticker on a VRS fabia ECU

Gents,

I Too got a remap. wanted to do it myself tho.

purchased a bare bones kwp2000 from ebay for £25, saw chipboosts ad on ebat, rang him up and asked if i read my ecu and emailed him the dump, he could re map it.

He did for £75.00!! I sent him my std map, he sent me back 2x maps! 1x strong and 1x stronger!! (guess wich one i used)

I now have a 180bhp map wich is awsome and the abillity to revert back to stock within 30 seconds! all for about £100.00!! i'm happy!

have you got the name of the seller of the item on ebay had look cant find one that cheap

Just my 2p but what the hell , I'm opinionated

If a low volume product needs to be developed, tested and made ready for a small batch volume release, with potential to be a success, it cost a LOT to do the R&D etc. That's another reason for the premium of say the Jabba rear ARB.

Similarly the Forge FMIC for the Fab vRS, took a bit of doing to develop. Tooling can be a real factor too, esp. with metal works.

With maps the situation can be quite different.

Generic maps can be purchased on a licensed basis, some maps are more custom than others but there are only a few that are 100% original.

If you are after the most customised maps though the biggest difference is probably the quality of the original map AND the skills of the mapper. It could well be that a custom map done by person/company A is as good as a standard map of company B, or it could be that they are worlds apart.

Also some maps claim crazy bhp figures/torque figures vs real ones.

Nothing wrong with having a nice cheap map that gives major grins - if the numbers are impressive and the curves look good, what's the problem

The main thing is that it uses what is on your car properly, and that you enjoy your car.

I'm quite convinced I'd enjoy a car custom mapped by any of the bigger names, as well as many of the smaller ones, given enough time