I am looking to buy a superb 2 1.9  tdi not bad miles are these 105bhp engines under powered for these cars?interested in anyone that has one thanks  

Edited 3 February, 20206 yr by Joe41

That would depend what you wanted it for because obviously they get around just fine.

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23 minutes ago, Joe41 said:

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The 1.9 pd engine will remap really well. Up to more or less 150bhp safely.

Drive one and see what you think. If you're worried about power levels not being high enough I'd suggest getting a 2.0 CR instead.

I not worried about the power,its just that i am reading posts about peoples opinions of the 1.9 tdi being underpowered.is there anyone on the site that has a 1.9 tdi skoda superb 2

With the greatest respect, I'm not sure you're going about this the right way. My little brother would think this was underpowered, my grandmother would think it too powerful. 

You obviously have 'reasonable doubt' about the power, so seeking validation from someone else is probably not going to be useful.

Go and drive one and form your own opinion. ✌️

 

On 03/02/2020 at 16:41, Joe41 said:

I am looking to buy a superb 2 1.9  tdi not bad miles are these 105bhp engines under powered for these cars?interested in anyone that has one thanks  

 

If you think that a 1.9 turbo diesel is underpowered, try driving a 1.9 non-turbo diesel. The 1.9 turbo diesel engine has about twice the torque of the 1.9 non-turbo diesel engine, ie. 250Nm vs 125Nm.

 

I once drove a 1.9 turbo diesel and it accelerated too quickly. Slow is best and far more considerate to other slow road users such as cyclists.

Edited 4 February, 20206 yr by Carlston

On 04/02/2020 at 16:00, Shaunieboy said:

With the greatest respect, I'm not sure you're going about this the right way. My little brother would think this was underpowered, my grandmother would think it too powerful. 

You obviously have 'reasonable doubt' about the power, so seeking validation from someone else is probably not going to be useful.

Go and drive one and form your own opinion. ✌️

 

I have a 1.9 tdi octavia just now and it is fine power wise so i don’t have a problem with the superb 2 1.9 tdi power even though i have not driven one but theres no harm in asking anyone on the site if they have one and how it is.i am not interest in speed but i have been reading some posts online and they have been pretty much guessing about the 1.9 tdi 105 bhp being possibly underpowered and them talking about the 2lt pd 140 and 170 bhp engines being more powerful but they engines have the dpf don’t want that

19 hours ago, Joe41 said:

I have a 1.9 tdi octavia just now and it is fine power wise so i don’t have a problem with the superb 2 1.9 tdi power even though i have not driven one but theres no harm in asking anyone on the site if they have one and how it is.i am not interest in speed but i have been reading some posts online and they have been pretty much guessing about the 1.9 tdi 105 bhp being possibly underpowered and them talking about the 2lt pd 140 and 170 bhp engines being more powerful but they engines have the dpf don’t want that

There's no reason to fear a DPF equipped car provided it's driven and maintained properly. The 2.0 common rail engines are a much nicer drive than the old 1.9 PD, and much more refined.

Hi,

If this is for getting you to and from work and general shopping and kids' taxi duties then get it if it's cheap enough. Nice car and that engine is strong. The 1.9 is not as refined as a 2 litre TDI ( my neighbour has an Audi with this engine and it is definitely more audible) and its power is way down. We have a 140 4WD Estate which is pretty refined ( not as smooth and quiet as the previous Citroen C5 we had , though) . It does way over 50 mpg according the the MaxiDot and is a really reassuring overtaking and motorway car. BUT, when it's fully loaded and has a camping trailer attached it slows noticeably so a laden 105 won't be very lively at all. 

So , as Shaunieboy said, ask yourself what you want it for. The 1.9 will be fine as it is if you're not into beating Golf GTI's away from the lights. It will also chip easily as it's a very widespread VW unit .But it'll never be anything other than it is and it does cost to have work done, you might spoil the driveabilty and use more fuel. You don't know what you end up with until it's done. And you have the dilemma of telling the insurance company or hoping no one checks in case of an accident. 

If it was me, I'd buy it and use it as it is, especially if it's a good price but be on the look out for a 2.0 TDI if the extra get up and go makes any difference to the decision . 

23 hours ago, Joe41 said:

I have a 1.9 tdi octavia just now and it is fine power wise so i don’t have a problem with the superb 2 1.9 tdi power even though i have not driven one but theres no harm in asking anyone on the site if they have one and how it is.i am not interest in speed but i have been reading some posts online and they have been pretty much guessing about the 1.9 tdi 105 bhp being possibly underpowered and them talking about the 2lt pd 140 and 170 bhp engines being more powerful but they engines have the dpf don’t want that

The Superb is about 300 kg heavier than your Octavia, so if you want a benchmark there, the Superb with just a driver is going to be like the Octavia four up with a boot full of luggage.

Well its decision time thanks for the comments folks

On 03/02/2020 at 20:04, Shaunieboy said:

The 1.9 pd engine will remap really well. Up to more or less 150bhp safely.

 

On 03/02/2020 at 20:04, Shaunieboy said:

The 1.9 pd engine will remap really well. Up to more or less 150bhp safely.

How much do you think it will cost for say to bring it up From 105 bhp to 140 bhp

A reputable company doing a live map on a dyno would be £300 - £500.

Had a 1.9 110hp non PD straight mechanical injection MK1 Octavia and it was perfect, great economy and more than enough power when needed, above all superb flexibility & would pull from tickover on full throttle.

 

Then bought a MK2 1.9 PD with 105hp and it was appalling by comparison, both were 5 speed so not a gearing issue, the extra weight really hammered it and it was far less responsive unladen than the MK1 when overloaded, the fuel economy sucked also compared to the predecessor, all told a real backward step. So on that basis I would run a mile from a Superb with that engine.

 

I read good reports from others with more powerfull versions of the same engine so went for a remapped plug & play ECU from Ebay cost around £110 and it now has more than enough mid range grunt together with a throaty grunting roar that is not really in keeping with the vehicle, no more power off boost, understandable but the difference means that it is now quite a peaky engine, I cannot drive it from very low revs like I could the MK1, the fuel economy is no better, the maxidot might tell you it is but that is a fortunate for the tuners side effect of the remapping, the tank to tank consumption is slightly less (understandable with more power on hand) and after correcting the displayed consumption using VCDS its inferior to the MK1.

 

Given the tractor feel of the PD, the intrusive grunting roar when giving it the beans, the lack of flexibility, lower fuel consumption there is little for me to commend this engine either in standard 105hp guise or remapped.

 

I have a 110hp 1.9 CR engined Yeti and whilst I have not driven it any great distance aside from a few nocturnal test drives (still waiting for French registration) it seems far better although that could be due to having an extra gear and lower gearing in the initial gears, it seems to use a lot more fuel though but only long term tests can say for sure.

I have a skoda octavia mk1 1.9 tdi 2008 and its more than enough for my needs its powerful enough and for 4 years all i have done is serviced it and changed suspension parts that go over that period the 2lt tdi superb 2 i read about dual mass failures and injectors turbos all sorts going wrong with them,still wanting that bullet proof 1.9 pd engine with more room inside that the superb has too offer

Edited 10 February, 20206 yr by Joe41

41 minutes ago, Joe41 said:

I have a skoda octavia mk1 1.9 tdi 2008 and its more than enough for my needs its powerful enough and for 4 years all i have done is serviced it and changed suspension parts that go over that period the 2lt tdi superb 2 i read about dual mass failures and injectors turbos all sorts going wrong with them,still wanting that bullet proof 1.9 pd engine with more room inside that the superb has too offer

Your Octavia also has a dual mass flywheel. I'll point you back to my earlier observation on Octavia vs Superb: the Superb is about 300 kg heavier than the Octavia, and will be that much slower.

Sorry my car has a solid flywheel

 

Unless you've done a SMF conversion, it'll have a DMF like every other 1.9 since the late 90s. Part number 7 on this list: http://www.oemepc.com/skoda/part_single/catalog/sk/markt/CZ/modell/OCT/year/2008/drive_standart/419/hg_ug/105/subcategory/105030/part_id/2541390/lang/e#sec_7

 

Googling any of the part numbers shows a DMF.

Its had a conversion done

On 10/02/2020 at 10:14, Joe41 said:

 

How much do you think it will cost for say to bring it up From 105 bhp to 140 bhp

I would use Ecotune Glasgow £349 

They do the  105 bhp to 140 bhp completely transforms the car

Know a few taxis that have been done and they drive great..