It's been needed for a while. Eventually I decided to get the parts and do it at home.

I have a EuroCarParts nearby so got the bits delivered working through Topcashback and ECP website.

 - Air Filter (Bosch)

 - Pollen filter with anti-niff (activated charcoal one). (Mann)

 - Oil Filter (Bosch)

 - 5L of PD oil (VW505.01).

 

Sealey SX113 oil filter socket - 32mm. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-SX113-Profile-Filter-Socket/dp/B000ROD0UG

I measured mine to find I needed 32mm. Measure first, buy once.

 

Also got a Sealey TP696 oil extractor. I mooted the much cheaper Silverline but too many reviews of badly fitting parts and the sphere collapsing under vacuum.

https://www.sealey.co.uk/product/5637203553/vacuum-oil-fluid-extractor-manual-55l

Bought it through Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-TP696-5-5ltr-Manual-Extractor/dp/B000WZF74M

 

The only point I worried was during/after the oil extraction. There are no markings on the sphere and its stated capacity of 5.5L made the amount pulled out look too low. Much faff expended trying to find more old oil in the sump before deciding no more was coming out. Without an old 5L oil can or markings on the oil extractor, I was left with uncertainty.

 

What I could have done is filled the extractor a litre at a time with water and marked the levels on the outside. This thought occurred halfway throough the process unfortunately.

 

Doubts now gone though. After starting/idling and topping up it's taken around 4.25L of the new oil.

 

J.

Do those bands on the outside of the container represent litres by chance?

I used to use the one made by Pela on my Golf Mk3 and it’s the only time the new oil was clear when replaced for a short while even after starting up. 

I did manage to push the tube past the sump bottom and sideways and got more oil out, sometimes sump nut off and tube in to take as much out as possible. 

2 hours ago, gav_is_con said:

Do those bands on the outside of the container represent litres by chance?

I used to use the one made by Pela on my Golf Mk3 and it’s the only time the new oil was clear when replaced for a short while even after starting up. 

I did manage to push the tube past the sump bottom and sideways and got more oil out, sometimes sump nut off and tube in to take as much out as possible. 

 

Pela is the brand that mostly pops up when searching.

 

The "bands" as you put it, erm no. It's actually a spiral, rather than bands. Seems to be a reinforcing moulding in the sphere.

You can suck a significant volume from the bottom of the oil filter housing, there will be an inch or so of oil and under that there are a couple of ports which if you can get the tube in will yield quite a bit more oil.

 

I have replaced the plastic tube with rigid copper 5/16" fuel pipe remaining from kit car builds, the plastic tube always wants to curl back to a radius and will deflect off the sump bottom and come back up like a snorkel leaving a lot of oil in the bottom of the sump.

Edited 8 February, 20206 yr by J.R.

I always remove the drain plug to drain old oil.Yes it may take longer but at least I know most of the sludge  has been removed.

22 minutes ago, AndyPandy said:

I always remove the drain plug to drain old oil.Yes it may take longer but at least I know most of the sludge  has been removed.

 

There won't be any sludge if the oil is changed regularly.

 

To be honest modern synthetic oils only need changing due to contamination from combustion gases and unburnt fuel vapour, you don't have be anal about it as long as you're changing the bulk of it, it doesn't matter a jot if you've hoovered up every last drop or not. 

56 minutes ago, J.R. said:

You can suck a significant volume from the bottom of the oil filter housing, there will be an inch or so of oil and under that there are a couple of ports which if you can get the tube in will yield quite a bit more oil.

 

I have replaced the plastic tube with rigid copper 5/16" fuel pipe remaining from kit car builds, the plastic tube always wants to curl back to a radius and will deflect off the sump bottom and come back up like a snorkel leaving a lot of oil in the bottom of the sump.

 

I loosened the filter off early on. Once it was out I pulled what oil could be got from the housing.

Blimey, it's all gone a bit OCD in here, good job getting it done vindaloo, cambelt next?

These oil extractors seem to come with probes of 0.4, 0.5, 0.6 and/or 0.8mm diameter. What's the largest that will go into a PD engine please?

Am in another country so cant check but i am fairly sure that the copper fuel pipe that I use is 5/16" OD although thats probably the bore size, so 8mm will definitely pass on the PD engine and 10mm possibly.

 

Its easy to check, just try a couple of drill bits in the dipstick tube as guages, dont drop them though!!!

 

If you go for solid like me it will need a shallow curve in it as the dipstick tube has a kink in it, once you get it right it goes in as easy as a slippery stick up a dogs jacksy 🤣

 

Tha advantage for me at least of a solid pick up tube is that you can feel exactly when it has hit the bottom of the sump and you cant push it too far and have it reverse.

Edited 8 February, 20206 yr by J.R.

14 hours ago, sepulchrave said:

Blimey, it's all gone a bit OCD in here, good job getting it done vindaloo, cambelt next?

 

Mainly me beating myself up over not having a way to measure how much oil came out. Cambelt's not for another couple years but I doubt I'll attempt it. 

6 hours ago, LB123 said:

These oil extractors seem to come with probes of 0.4, 0.5, 0.6 and/or 0.8mm diameter. What's the largest that will go into a PD engine please?

 

Just measured mine, the business end is a tad under 6mm.

I only tried using my Pela extractor once on a car, after that disappointment it only gets used for my motor mower - if using it for that is worth the extra work cleaning it up afterwards, probably as I've got it I'll use it!

Thanks. So 0.4 0.5 or 5/16 should be fine.

0.4 mm is smaller than most hypodermic needles and would be far too fine and fragile to use for extracting oil.

 

5/16 is basically 8mm, this thread seems to have gotten its measurements mixed up.

lots of posts ago I commented on the problems I had on MINE  (1.4TDI) using an extractor pump, with the extractor tube of similar size to windscreen washer tube. I used an old oil container( calibrated on outside) and could only get half of the old oil out. I seem to member that Wino(?) produced a drawing showing WHY it was not possible to get all the oil out via the dipstick.