Karoq OBDeleven Tweaks

[solarfusion]

Hi all, just recently purchased an OBDeleven Pro and made a few tweaks to my Karoq so thought I'd share the working tweaks done via coding (as opposed the the built-in "apps"). There's a lot of information on various forums but it's often not quite right for the Karoq or needs some translation.

 

Disable ‘Ignition On’ Alarm

This disables the ignition on alarm which is activated when the drivers door is opened.

 

1. Control unit 17 (Dashboard)
2. Adaptation
3. Search "Ignition"
4. Select “Ignition Active Message, Actuator”
5. Set to "No Display"

 

 

 

Show Refuel Quantity in Dashboard (Volume to be Replenished)

Show the number of litres / gallons needed to fill the tank in the MFD / maxidot

 

1. Control unit 17 (Dashboard)
2. Security access >  enter code 25327
3. Long coding
4. Scroll down to "Volume to be replenished"
5. Set to "Yes"

 

 

Note: the units are controlled in the car settings (separate from consumption units)

 

Enable Summertime Automatic Option in Time / Date Menu

Enables the option to update daylight savings time automatically in the car menu

 

 

1. Control unit 5F (Information Control Unit 1)
2. Adaptation
3. Search "Summertime-automatic"
4. Set to "Europe"

 

 

 

Disable the ACC Function to Avoid Undertaking

Stops ACC slowing the car down if a vehicle in the right hand lane (UK) is moving more slowly.

 

Obviously I'm just testing this one as nobody undertakes!

 

Translated from clubskodakaroq.es and bear in mind the language is written for right-hand drive cars.

"The adaptive cruise control (ACC) has a function to prevent overtaking on the right (RUV).

If to the left of the vehicle there is another vehicle that runs at a slower speed, it is represented on the multifunction screen.

To avoid "overtaking on the right," the system brakes the vehicle itself gently.

The RUV function is active from a speed of 80km / h and the driver can interrupt his intervention at any time."

 

1. Control unit 13 (Adaptive Cruise Control)
2. Security access > enter code 20103
3. Go to Long coding
4. Search for "Overtaking_right_prevention "
5. By default it is set to enabled . Change to disabled .
6. Restart the infotainment (hold power for 20 sec) - not entirely sure this is necessary

 

 

 

More to follow. Working on a guide to enable lane assist and high beam assist for cars with the A5 camera.

 

[CJJE]

Many thanks for this.

 

I'm looking at buying an OBDeleven - primarily to control the Soundaktor on a Karoq Sportline 2.0TSI. But this is not listed as a built-in app as far as I can see (although it is for a SEAT Ateca FR!) 

 

Scandinavian DRLs also seem to be missing as a app.

 

Can these be done through coding? I presume that means I'd have to buy the Pro version rather than the basic version?

[Tim1631]

I'd like the Scandinavia lights on mine too

[NigelC95]

I found the Scandinavian lights option for my 2015 Fabia and liked the idea of the rear lamps being on too.  However, activatiing this option leaves teh DRLs on at all times, including when the sidelamps (parking lamps) or headlamps are turned on.

As I understand it, legislation dictates that the DRLs should either extinguish or dim when the headlamps are on.  The choice can be that they turn off, to be replaced by the sidelamps, or dim to that lower brightness level.

Leaving the DRLs on with the headlamps is therefore an offence, and could bring a risk of fines or just inconvenience if spotted by a clued-up and pedantic police officer.  (You'd have to assess that risk level yourself.)  As a driving instructor, i cannot take that risk at all.

 

The legislation around DRLs was, in my view, created by bureaucrats in Brussels, tasked with harmonising rules across the EU, without understanding them.

DRLs were created in Scandinavia to ensure vehicles were lit at night, to compensate for inebriated drivers meeting inebrated pedestrians, and have been successful in reducing injury and death in those circumstances.  The argument for the rest of Europe is less valuable, but they do show a potentially moving vehicle.  In Scandinavia, they illuminated brighter front lights and the standard rear lamps.  When the EU rules appeared they seem to have missed the rear lamps.  However, running with rear lamps as well is not an offence.

[Merlinman]

For info - enabling the 'Scandi' DRLs via Carista did not leave the DRLs  on when lights turned on on my Karoq.

[NigelC95]

Thanks for that. I hadn't heard of Carista, so have now had a look. I don't think I can justify the subscription right now, as OBDEleven does all I currently need.  An expensive way to put the rear lights on with the DRLs, unless I need other benefits.

[CJJE]

5 hours ago, Merlinman said:

For info - enabling the 'Scandi' DRLs via Carista did not leave the DRLs  on when lights turned on on my Karoq.

That's interesting! Whatever coding Carista are using must be available via OBDeleven as well, so I wonder if their app does the same or not? Or do we need someone to work out the Carista coding for us??

 

[solarfusion]

On 01/08/2020 at 12:21, CJJE said:

Many thanks for this.

 

I'm looking at buying an OBDeleven - primarily to control the Soundaktor on a Karoq Sportline 2.0TSI. But this is not listed as a built-in app as far as I can see (although it is for a SEAT Ateca FR!) 

 

Scandinavian DRLs also seem to be missing as a app.

 

Can these be done through coding? I presume that means I'd have to buy the Pro version rather than the basic version?

 

Hi,

 

If it's possible for an Ateca then I'd imagine it's possible on a Karoq through adaptions / long coding but you will need the pro version.  Most of the tweaks I've been doing have been through this method rather than "apps". I found the list of apps a bit limited and you have to use a credit for each app (even in pro) but anything that can be done in an app can be done through coding if you can find the right guide! If you are going to be making a lot of changes its probably worth getting the pro version.

[CJJE]

Having bought an OBDeleven - primarily to turn off the childish Soundaktor device on my forthcoming Karoq - I am more than somewhat miffed to find that it might be more use as a paperweight! 

 

According to the OBDeleven forum (see https://forum.obdeleven.com/thread/8199/post-2020-models-obd11-devices ), VAG are locking down access to their cars' software via what is called SFD protection. It appears this will be used on all cars made from 2020 on (and not just new models as I understand it) so that only official dealers will be able to scan, read and edit the data. 

 

This will impact all scan tools apparently, unless they but a token from VW to enable access. 

 

Has anyone else come across this problem on new cars?

[skodamota]

15 hours ago, CJJE said:

Having bought an OBDeleven - primarily to turn off the childish Soundaktor device on my forthcoming Karoq - I am more than somewhat miffed to find that it might be more use as a paperweight! 

 

According to the OBDeleven forum (see https://forum.obdeleven.com/thread/8199/post-2020-models-obd11-devices ), VAG are locking down access to their cars' software via what is called SFD protection. It appears this will be used on all cars made from 2020 on (and not just new models as I understand it) so that only official dealers will be able to scan, read and edit the data. 

 

This will impact all scan tools apparently, unless they but a token from VW to enable access. 

 

Has anyone else come across this problem on new cars?

 

My car is an MY20 (Feb 2020 build) and I had no problems turning down the Soundaktor using OBDEleven. It is the Pro version. This is how to do it:

 

Select ' Structure Borne Sound' Control Unit

Select  'Adaptation'

Select 'Volume of structure-borne noise actuator' 

You can then adjust volume of the sound generator as a percentage. By default mine was set to 100% but I changed it to 0%. 

 

With the above change the sound generator is not heard in any Drive Modes, including Sport.

 

If VAG are locking down access for 2020 cars I'm guessing mine would occur via firmware update when taking the car in for service. I'll see if I can request the update not be done 

 

[CJJE]

1 hour ago, skodamota said:

 

If VAG are locking down access for 2020 cars I'm guessing mine would occur via firmware update when taking the car in for service. I'll see if I can request the update not be done 

 

 

Many thanks for your reply.

 

I'll try your coding on my car when it arrives and hope  this control unit hasn't been locked down.

 

My car will be a MY21 car, and it is not clear from the VAG info whether the SFD protection will only be added to new models, or to existing cars in production from spring 2020 on. The details of the changes are here: http://www.vag-com-espanol.com/EN_SFD-Manual_for_UMB.pdf

 

Certainly from complaints on the OBD forum at https://forum.obdeleven.com/thread/8199/post-2020-models-obd11-devices they seem to have seen newly produced cars that they can no longer access. 

 

I haven't seen any reports that the change is being rolled back onto older cars that I have seen. 

 

 

[NigelC95]

This is an issue with other makes too.

Fiat/Chrysler have already locked some Fiat, Alfa and Jeep models, and more will follow.

There are two reasons for this I believe.

1. To counter the immobiliser by-pass tools that allow theft of the vehicle by plugging into the OBD port.

2. To keep vehicles in the dealer network. Dealers have to invest a lot into a franchise, and with reliability improving and servicing intervals stretching, they have less work for their workshops, and lower parts sales. Keeping the cars in the dealer network improve dealer viability.

 

However, older vehicles are not always welcome in dealers workshops, and if these are to be maintained, access to the diagnostics will be needed by independents, marque specialists and occasionally owners. If manufacturers don't allow some access method, probably by fee or subscription, older vehicles will lose value quickly, which will hurt future sales.  Hopefully, independent data suppliers and diagnostic suppliers like OBDEleven and VCDS will be able to gain some access rights, maybe for all, or perhaps only after they reach a certain age.

 

Sadly, EU OBD rules only insisted that powertrain data was available to all, so that should continue for fault readings, but service resets and other systems, like ABS and aircon may remain as locked or 'pay-per-view'.

[CJJE]

38 minutes ago, NigelC95 said:

This is an issue with other makes too.

Fiat/Chrysler have already locked some Fiat, Alfa and Jeep models, and more will follow.

There are two reasons for this I believe.

1. To counter the immobiliser by-pass tools that allow theft of the vehicle by plugging into the OBD port.

2. To keep vehicles in the dealer network. Dealers have to invest a lot into a franchise, and with reliability improving and servicing intervals stretching, they have less work for their workshops, and lower parts sales. Keeping the cars in the dealer network improve dealer viability.

 

However, older vehicles are not always welcome in dealers workshops, and if these are to be maintained, access to the diagnostics will be needed by independents, marque specialists and occasionally owners. If manufacturers don't allow some access method, probably by fee or subscription, older vehicles will lose value quickly, which will hurt future sales.  Hopefully, independent data suppliers and diagnostic suppliers like OBDEleven and VCDS will be able to gain some access rights, maybe for all, or perhaps only after they reach a certain age.

 

Sadly, EU OBD rules only insisted that powertrain data was available to all, so that should continue for fault readings, but service resets and other systems, like ABS and aircon may remain as locked or 'pay-per-view'.

 

I think another reason is that the manufacturers are moving to sell additional features after the initial sale by letting the dealers enable them. Interestingly, this may evade the £40k VED hike if owners buy a car just below the threshold, then buying the extra options afterwards. But of course they don't want you adding the features yourself by accessing the software!

 

I've also seen reports for Telsa cars where drivers had added options to their cars (via the dealers) and the options are then deleted when the car is P/Xed.  

[CJJE]

Looks like there is some good news about the SFD issue. 

 

An owner of a French MY21 Karoq reports in the OBD forums that he has managed to add many options and tweaks, but can't add long coding to the A5 module.:

 

Hi everyone !

 

Just got a new MY21 Karoq last week (France) and Obdeleven dongle (the white one), and already managed to add many options & tweaks, this is just great !

 

When it comes to activating Lane Assist I have to do some long coding in A5 Module. Here is my problem, only adaptations work in this module, I cannot save any long coding as I get error 31 (function unavailable). Correct password entered, and I tested all the services available, nothing will do...

 

I would like to know if there's a way to activate modifications in A5 Module, maybe some of you have faced the same issue ?

 

So hopefully the Soundaktor access will be OK. 

 

[chorsley]

On 16/10/2020 at 18:46, CJJE said:

Having bought an OBDeleven - primarily to turn off the childish Soundaktor device on my forthcoming Karoq - I am more than somewhat miffed to find that it might be more use as a paperweight! 

 

According to the OBDeleven forum (see https://forum.obdeleven.com/thread/8199/post-2020-models-obd11-devices ), VAG are locking down access to their cars' software via what is called SFD protection. It appears this will be used on all cars made from 2020 on (and not just new models as I understand it) so that only official dealers will be able to scan, read and edit the data. 

 

This will impact all scan tools apparently, unless they but a token from VW to enable access. 

 

Has anyone else come across this problem on new cars?

You can turn the soundaktor of in the individual mode on MY21 karoq

[CJJE]

39 minutes ago, chorsley said:

You can turn the soundaktor of in the individual mode on MY21 karoq

Yes, I realise that, but I understand the car will revert to Normal each time it's started. 

 

The OBDeleven experts tell me that they don't think the MY21 Karoqs have been SFD'd, so we should be alright for the time being. My car was built last week, and is now en-route to Emden, so I should know whether buying the OBDeleven widget was worth it or not in a few weeks time.  

[chorsley]

Let me know because I want to enable high been assit on mine

[CJJE]

OBDeleven have just added the Soundaktor control as a one-click App. Now I just need my car to use it on! (Built 21st October, presently somewhere between the factory and Emden. Why doesn't 'Just-in-Time' get applied to deliveries as well as production??)

[CJJE]

Quick update now my car has arrived.

 

OBDeleven connects to my MY21 Sportline, and I've been able to use the 'One-Click' apps to turn the Soundakter off, and display the fan speed when the Climatronic is on Auto. But attempts to use the apps to set the flick indicators to five flashes, and pulsation of the Start button only produced the response 'not Supported' -  despite being offered by the app for my car! So whether the coding has changed, or the SFD protection is stopping me accessing these subsystems I'm not sure. But I don't think it's worthwhile buying the PRO licence just for these two adaptations.

 

My main need for it was to turn the horrible fake engine sound off - reinforced when my Individual Drive Mode settings which had turned it off reset themselves! Now it's off for good!

 

Chris

[Dem0nikx]

Hello

Disable the ACC Function to Avoid Undertaking

 

Question about this function   Can it work If i have another car from the left side?

[Dem0nikx]

another question I what to do Stroboscope effect when the Hi beam flashing turn on  the fog lights

 

But in my car channel 12 and channel 13 not active. As i understand the fog lights works with some another way

[rawy]

I have karoq 2021 on egypt try vcds to unlocke navigation gbs systems and maps on the car can't do they said odis and then buy swap code by 800 euro vcds on karoq 2021 noting can do excpet show green list and something not important any have idea of this