[Retrofit] Rear electric window

[wirer]

hello,

i retrofited rear electric window (from mechanical to electric pulling). the rear windows work fine for me. driver motor window is also changing (from 5JA 959 811 K to 6V1 959 801 B), modified I have a complete wiring according to the diagram. and there is a problem

 

coding changed according to another car with electric rear windows.

 

  

 

I already have a visible motor for the driver's door (left-hand drive) in the list of units

 

 

the problem is that the driver's window reacts in the opposite way (if I press "up", the window goes down. if I press "down", the window goes up. I don't know where the error is. I don't have another engine to test yet.

is it still possible to modify the encoding somewhere? in unit 09 for FHSG DRV, despite the original cable, I do not have a description of bytes and bits. coding is the same as another car with the original engine

 

full scan (errors unit 17 and 5F is from another modifiing):

Saturday,18,April,2020,20:32:00:21987
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
VCDS Version: 20.4.0.1  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
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VIN: TMBJN6NJ7GZ173417   License Plate:
Mileage: 98956km-61488mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: NJ-SK26 (6C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 44 5F

VIN: TMBJN6NJ7GZ173417   Mileage: 98956km-61488miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZD)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04E 906 027 BC    HW: 04E 907 309 AF
   Component: R4 1.2l TFS   H23 9086  
   Revision: R4H23---    
   Coding: 01190012232415080000
   Shop #: WSC 65048 003 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027BC 001009
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027BC.rod
   VCID: 669446AD08E2930BC9E-8032

   CAN Converter 01: 

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 K    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
   Component: ESP9.0i       H03 0004  
   Serial number: 08514048160314
   Coding: 41F5487D492A33C30918106A0058821292CC9008000DD7098F00
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
   VCID: 372ADBE91FC8DA83A28-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 6C0-820-045.clb
   Part No SW: 6V0 820 045 A    HW: 6V0 820 045 A
   Component: AC Manuell    H01 0202  
   Serial number:  1603091B-1445
   Coding: 100000001000100000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
   ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26_SK26.rod
   VCID: 3038E0F5FAA60DBBE32-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 6C0-937-090-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 937 090 D    HW: 6C0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ26 HiKR H10 0094  
   Serial number: 006318037927
   Coding: 1C00095042158A7B43804000412F87080001D100D30A3500000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 65048 003 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 006002
   ROD: EV_BCMA0_006_VW26.rod
   VCID: 290E0D91D97C7C7324C-807C

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 559 A    HW: 5Q0 955 559 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLS  037 0059 
   Serial number: S2Y15M09D15H00M44S58
   Coding: 00185E

   Drivers Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6V1 959 801 B    HW: 6V1 959 801 B
   Component: FHSG DRV  007 0001 
   Serial number: 00000000000009255270
   Coding: 011200

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 E    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 7K  H03 0048  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39331431407392
   Coding: 0031151041
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002024
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_VW26.rod
   VCID: 3D26C9C13DF4F0D3784-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 K    HW: 6C0 959 655 K
   Component: VW20Airbag743 002 0380  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003TJ00313GV
   Coding: 88CCC000000000005C5400CF000800000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
   VCID: 3B22C7D923E0FEE3460-806E

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 822 503 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3575H000E2957E71B11N
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 822 503 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3585H00162957E74138J
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 103 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3517A00A31F93E220223
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 103 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3527A00B31F93E33232A
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 6V0 920 740 A    HW: 6V0 920 740 A
   Component: KOMBI         205 1420  
   Coding: 0BAD0900218000080108B6001C00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 65517 001 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_SK25.rod
   VCID: 3332EFF90BB036A39E0-8066

2 Faults Found:
16777024 - Function Restricted due to Interrupted Communications 
          U1110 00 [008] - -
          [BAP_BCME_0x23 keine Kommunikation]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 42
                    Mileage: 98482 km
                    Date: 2020.04.14
                    Time: 17:56:11

16777051 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [TCO_01 keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 252
                    Mileage: 98405 km
                    Date: 2020.04.12
                    Time: 14:24:28


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 909 901 A    HW: 6C0 937 090 
   Component: GW MQB A0     H10 0094  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 006318037927
   Coding: 030100042F0A640000000000000300010001000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_013_SK25.rod
   VCID: 261406ADC862530B09E-8072

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3V0 919 719 A    HW: 3V0 919 719 A
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H02 0160 
   Serial number: 000000000D2251200218

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181 A    HW: 6C0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0223 
   Serial number: 53079716042821739041

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 3G0 857 511 AG    HW: 3G0 857 511 AG
   Component: FLA           H08 0001  
   Revision: AA001001    
   Coding: 010100E500000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU33X 001016
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU33X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 6D8639812D14A053884-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 AG    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3232  
   Serial number: CG460016
   Coding: 800700
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016026
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW.rod
   VCID: 6D8639812D14A053884-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 6V0 035 871 J    HW: 6V0 035 871 J
   Component: MU-E--US      690 8740  
   Serial number: 24081800021394
   Coding: 03620200BE0000001111000401000A00AF0003D40000010004
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001041
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3E24CECD30F2EBCB61E-806A

3 Faults Found:
1543 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
          U1014 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 252
                    Mileage: 98405 km
                    Date: 2020.04.12
                    Time: 14:23:53

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.9 V
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_0_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_1_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_10_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_11_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_12_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_13_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_14_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_15_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_16_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_17_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_18_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_19_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_2_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_20_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_21_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_22_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_23_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_24_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_25_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_26_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_27_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_3_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_4_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_5_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_6_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_7_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_8_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_9_condition: OK

1564 - Microphone 1 
          B129B 13 [008] - Open Circuit
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 44
                    Mileage: 98504 km
                    Date: 2020.04.15
                    Time: 05:47:47

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.7 V

7195 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Brake assist system (0x1B) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 252
                    Mileage: 98405 km
                    Date: 2020.04.12
                    Time: 14:23:56

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.9 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 00


End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:44, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.3V)-----------

 

thanks for reply and sorry for my english

[wirer]

buttons I tried from another car - no change. I also tried my buttons in another car - the other car works properly ...

[Stjepan]

same **** hapens to me few monts ago working on golf 5..related to motor version,I wasnt able to find original motor to fix it,coding didnt help to..Iam not sure is it UK /EU version of motor but some similar **** ...after few hours of fight I rewire the switches..IF you have schematic by hand you will see that for UP position there is resistance between pins forexample 120 ohm for DOWN position there will be 250 ohm..so change switches and all is fine..but you need to do it on both switches...just for test try comfort locking the car and keep key in locked position few seconds..does windovs go UP ?

[wirer]

I tried the comfortable control function, it works the other way too. When locked, the window pulls down, when unlocked it goes up

[wirer]

A friend sacrificed his car today and allowed his window-pulling engine to be tested.

It works properly for me, so the connection is good. My engine in his car didn't work properly and behaved the exact opposite.

The wiring, the buttons are correct accordingly. The fault will only be in the engine. Mine is Made in Germany, its Made in Slovakia. Depending on the forum, you need to upload another dataset. Can anyone do this remotely for a job? Via ODIS or VCP or VCDS?

I would like to finally finish it ...

 

 

 

Well thank you

[Stjepan]

yep as I wrote wrong motor..that is reason why Iask for comfort test...hapens to me few times..wrong motor..

is there way to change sw in motor controler I realy have no idea..but on few golf5 I manage to change motor wires..remove that metal housing and look can you exchange position of 2 contact feed for motor..

you read somewhere that VCD can do that ?..well never try with vcp..next time for sure

[wirer]

Yesterday I received another engine, which I thought would be correct according to the sign in the bottom line of the BEP. This is exactly the designation of the engine positioned from a friend's car for a test and it worked properly.

I also compared the coding, everything is the same ...

This is the third engine from the third "store" and neither of them works properly. No attacks?

 

[wirer]

Hi,
I still don't have those windows solved. I pull the driver's window in the opposite direction, ie by pressing the button up.
Can't it be a problem that I once changed the BCM bought for Allegro and I don't know what car it came from? maybe nonsense, but I was wondering if anyone has coding BCM and window units from the English version (steering wheel on the right). wouldn't that help turn the whole window control system on?

well thank you

[wirer]

in the end it didn't bother me, i tried to order another, another window download engine. managed to! physically the engines are the same, this one had according to the seller designation for the right front door, I do not understand why, when the number fits the left front (left-hand drive)
the important thing is that it works. I still don't understand the given logic, I didn't change the coding after replacing the motorbike, it remained the original one
in Slovak I wrote it as an article for a complete addition of rear electric windows, maybe it will help someone ....

https://wirer.sk/f3_okna/

the problem is solved after a year and a half 

[Breezy_Pete]

Great guide; fantastic detail and presentation.

 

I think to make the motor go in the opposite/correct direction, there is no need to re-wire anything on the rotor, you just need to rotate the metal motor housing round by 180°, as it contains permanent magnets.

 

I only discovered this recently while watching a youtube video of someone repairing a window motor on some other brand of car.  He said to mark the housing relative to the plastic parts so that it went back the same way as it came off 'or the motor would turn the wrong way'. 

[JGrindel]

Great guide as always and always enjoy following your retrofits. 

 

Can you replace the drivers motor (engine) with the one you have mentioned and get one touch windows / comfort opening and closing coded in without the installation of the rear windows?

[wirer]

I guess not. for 4 electric windows, the driver's motor is controlled in a different way, in addition it is connected to the LIN communication of the BCM unit. but I didn't try