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Coolant leakage coming from here, help please

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Have a coolant leakage that has gone worse over time. Now at fast dripping point. 

In the past i did have a very slow leakage that was fixed by "tightening a bolt by the water-pump" not so long after timing-belt/water-pump change (around 60.000 KM ago now) No idea what that bolt was though 

My local garage had a 2 min look and said it need a new new pump and belt-kit. Adviced me to scrap the car and tried to sell be a citroen. (go figure) 

I didn't quite buy that, so went under to have a look: 
This is the exact point it drips down from, and over the engine oilpan 

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There is some red "caking" by the belt here :

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In the last pick ive loosened the M10 bolt, which i suspect has noting to do with the leak 😞

Any good suggestions or is the "youngish" pump already borked? 

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Better pinpointing of the red "caking" 
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err. that garage obviously could not have looked much and just wanted to sell me a new car. The leakage is no where near the pump. And it looks like its coming from above on the backside of the engine somewhere above inside the plastic cover. Can anyone please advice what my next step should be? 

Here are two videos of the leak live. one from below, and from above. Looks like its coming from somewhere above inside the plastic cover.  Note, if the car has been standing for a hours or so, it takes some seconds before the leak is visible after starting engine.  

 

Thermostat housing a likely culprit? 

 

 

 


 

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Yeah you're right. There you see how I know. Now onto following YouTube videos and try and replace it. 

That's a crazy big leak, there are only a few places it can be coming from realistically.

Get the plastic covers off and take another look.

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13 hours ago, sepulchrave said:

That's a crazy big leak, there are only a few places it can be coming from realistically.

Get the plastic covers off and take another look.

 

 

To get the cover off I need to take off the v-belt and pulley. 

I've watched a few instruction videos now and will order a 30 euro pump. I will make the attempt to replace it. Does not seem that difficult. I was worried that i had to replace the timing belt as well, but apparently I only need to take off the V-belt. 

Couple of Q's if i may?

- Should i replace the V-belt? In the videos  see them reusing the old belt. (V-belt and timing belt  is just about 50-60000 km old. Maybe 3 years.) 

- is it stupid of me to attempt this myself? I am no car mechanic, but can do smaller jobs like servicing, replacing break pads etc. Reasonably DYI handy, renovated multiple houses, buildt my own camper-van. But again, def not a car mechanic. 

 

It does not look horribly difficult: 

 


 

 

You'll be ok and so will the belt.

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32 minutes ago, ToreV said:

 

 

To get the cover off I need to take off the v-belt and pulley. 

I've watched a few instruction videos now and will order a 30 euro pump. I will make the attempt to replace it. Does not seem that difficult. I was worried that i had to replace the timing belt as well, but apparently I only need to take off the V-belt. 

Couple of Q's if i may?

- Should i replace the V-belt? In the videos  see them reusing the old belt. (V-belt and timing belt  is just about 50-60000 km old. Maybe 3 years.) 

- is it stupid of me to attempt this myself? I am no car mechanic, but can do smaller jobs like servicing, replacing break pads etc. Reasonably DYI handy, renovated multiple houses, buildt my own camper-van. But again, def not a car mechanic. 

 

It does not look horribly difficult: 

 


 

 

 

It's not like that on the 1.4/16V, the WP is driven by the cambelt rather than the aux belt, I believe.

You still only need to remove the auxiliary belt to get the covers off though, a water pump should last far longer than 60k km unless they skimped on the job and didn't actually replace it.

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2 hours ago, Wino said:

 

It's not like that on the 1.4/16V, the WP is driven by the cambelt rather than the aux belt, I believe.


Err yeah I guess you are right. Now I'm getting a little more sceptical to do this myself. I guess im f.cked 😞

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You still need to confirm if the leak is really coming from the water pump itself or the joint where the pump bolts to the engine.

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Or the pipe coming into the water pump from the thermostat housing, item 2 here: https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/fabia/fab/2004-225/1/121-121025/

Someone a while ago was having trouble getting one of these back into the pump after some operation, it wasn't you was it?  If it was you, o-rings item numbers 11 or 12 could be possible leak points.   May be hard to see, but well worth attempting.

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On 04/05/2020 at 14:56, Wino said:

Or the pipe coming into the water pump from the thermostat housing, item 2 here: https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/fabia/fab/2004-225/1/121-121025/

Someone a while ago was having trouble getting one of these back into the pump after some operation, it wasn't you was it?  If it was you, o-rings item numbers 11 or 12 could be possible leak points.   May be hard to see, but well worth attempting.


No that was not me. 

To get in and have a look, i need a special tool for the pulley on the Aux belt. Any tips where to get that cheap? 

Also cheap tool for timing belt change? 

Its a bit daunting, but a belt kit with pump is a bit over 100 euros. If i scrap the car i get around 100.  Its already standing on axl stands in front, and i have one of these to lift/support the engine

 

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The bolt in the middle of the crankshaft auxiliary belt pulley needs a 21mm 12-point socket on my BKY engine Polo (nearest car to try). Not much room there though, you would remove the wheel arch liner and go  in from the side I think.  I've not done a cambelt/waterpump on one of these, so can't really help much.

 

 

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Is this correct, 

In addition to standard tools, Torque wrench etc, what i need is: 

Special tool 3415
special tool T10016

And obviously a belt kit


 

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Thanks, 

This appear to be a good instruction. Also looks like my engine 

 

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6 minutes ago, Wino said:

The bolt in the middle of the crankshaft auxiliary belt pulley needs a 21mm 12-point socket on my BKY engine Polo (nearest car to try). Not much room there though, you would remove the wheel arch liner and go  in from the side I think.  I've not done a cambelt/waterpump on one of these, so can't really help much.

 

 

 


Thanks, yes the side cover is already off, and will take off the wheel. 

From what i see i will need a tool like this

 

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And this for locking the pulleys in position (and obviously mark the positions)

 

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Ok i was a bit intimidated by the whole lifting the engine thing,  but I will take this challenge. 

Thanks for all the help :) Much appreciated. Lots of virtual pints to you guys 🍻

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Silly question :) If i manage to do this, any hope I will be able to mage replacing the gearbox myself, or is that wishful thinking?  

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