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16 minutes ago, Steviedakota said:

😂😂

 

 

But not if you were in the car probably.

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  • Steviedakota
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    Luckily we are moose free in Ireland, is there a pot hole swerve test?

  • It hardly matters about any excuses, as Skoda fit ECO Tyres as OEM and even on performance models or SUV's. Many drive a car with what it comes with and might not even check tyre pressures, demon

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    At least it looks pretty easy to do a scandy flick in one of these

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55 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

Our Karoq came with Michelin Primacy tyres from the factory in Jan 2018 and after 25,000 miles they have plenty of life left in them and offer surprisingly high levels of grip for an SUV whether it is wet or dry. Not a cheap option but highly recommended and we will replace the 3 spec on our car with the latest 5 version when the time comes.

Yes, I was also pleasantly surprised, when I realized, that the car came with some decent tyres. And yes, please go and buy some Primacy 5 tyres. I have shares in Michelin. 😄

 

6 hours ago, kimljac said:

Primacy 5 tyres

 

Who has them in stock?

 

Thanks AG Falco

For a comparison.

There is only a driver in there. Maybe there are weights in the passenger front seat, but not at the height of a body.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

For a comparison.

 

 

Slalom was OK but if you drive over 75kph it eats cones like me with ice cream on a hot day.

19 hours ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

For a comparison.

There is only a driver in there. Maybe there are weights in the passenger front seat, but not at the height of a body.

Weirdly enough the Tarraco didn't fare well either compared to the Tig Allspace

Any sand / grit or diesel spill or maybe even imperfections on the road surface and they may be  stuffed really.

One of the reasons why I use left foot braking. Much quicker reaction! 

Left foot braking and DSG's can go badly wrong.

The roadgoing VW's Golfs with DSG used for checking out stages (reconnaissance) required the DSG to be programmed to not cut power when on the brakes.

It might be minute but there can be a delay on and off power from brake and accelerator when you do not want that.

 

PS

If like me you only have one foot, and that is a left one you always left foot brake and left foot accelerate, not heel and tow with a DSG, 

but maybe on a traditional Auto.

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I definitely don’t push both the throttle pedal and the brake pedal at the same time. That said I have definitely felt what you mentioned with the car cutting power when giving a dab of brake mid corner if you’re on the gas. You don’t really encounter that during town driving though. Maybe I just miss manual too much so my left foot got too bored. 

Steering is not a strong side of Superb. I guess, weight distribution and suspension tuning were never prioritised above rear leg room, boot space and other practicality characteristics. DCC in Sport mode does make the ride bumpier, but it does not improve handling significantly. Seriously, if you want to witness understeer, take a look at Superb.

 

My previous car was GT86. I am not expecting my Superb to steer like a sporty coupe. I'm fine with it being a lazy estate. Moose test performed by a trained driver is the last thing I care about. 

48 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

Being able to steer like an Audi would be something to hope for.  

 

Why not steer like a GT86? 

@eurotripwagen  You were the one that said you would not expect a Superb to steer like a sporty coupe.

What a pity Skoda are not allowed to produce any small sporty car with good or bad handling.

Also a shame that in bigger cars or SUV's they can not handle like vehicles from the sister brands.

Maybe once Skoda get EV's bigger than a Citigo they will be on a par with a VW, Audi and SEAT.

There was a time when all Audi's ride was rock hard and deemed to be sporty. However Mercedes and to a lesser extent BMW didn't make the same mistake of thinking every shopping trip was a lap of the Nurburgring.:thinking:

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3 hours ago, eurotripwagen said:

 

My previous car was GT86. I am not expecting my Superb to steer like a sporty coupe. I'm fine with it being a lazy estate. Moose test performed by a trained driver is the last thing I care about. 

 

Ha! My previous was a BRZ. 

The Superb was like driving my house initially (a very fast house!).

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@Roottootemblowinootsoot Affordable, spacious, sporty. You can only pick two. 

 

If Skoda handled like an Audi, it would be priced like an Audi. Who in their mind spends Audi money on a Skoda?

@eurotripwagen

Rubbish, you can have all 3 on lease & pay not much more than some shopping buggy,

or pick up a used one for a grand or 2 as many do.

Vorsprung  Durch Technik. 

Premium Models from BMW, Mercedes-Daimler & Audi are just 3 years away from being out of manufacturers warranty and residuals are kept high by Main Dealerships, if you want a taxi then as well to get one of those.

 

As to priced like an Audi, they are now in many models.

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On 31/05/2020 at 07:18, ZacDaMan72 said:

One of the reasons why I use left foot braking. Much quicker reaction! 

 

Not in a manual car you don't  :D

 

Not that old chestnut again ! 

 

Lets just think about what you're saying for a second.   If your left foot is constantly hovering above the brake pedal then yes, left foot braking will be quicker. Racing drivers, rally drivers etc all drive like this with their semi or fully auto gear boxes. ( they use right foot heel and toe method if their driving a manual ). Of course they don;t drive like that for quicker reaction times but rather to go around corners quicker.

 

Joe public however? That's not how we drive. When driving auto cars, we do not drive along roads with our left foot hovering over the brake pedal waiting for a moose, or in your case, a Kiwi to step on to the road, we drive with our left foot on the foot rest or on the floor. In that instance it is quicker to move your right foot from the adjacent pedal than move your left foot all the way over or up to the brake pedal. So in truth, left foot braking means slower reaction times.

 

You say that's one of the reasons. Would love to know what your other reasons are because I was under the impression left foot braking only benefitted racing drivers. ( little wonder then they need their cars overhaulled after each race! )

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1 minute ago, Scot5 said:

Not in a manual car you don't  :D

 

Joe public however? That's not how we drive. When driving auto cars, we do not drive along roads with our left foot hovering over the brake pedal waiting for a moose, or in your case, a Kiwi to step on to the road, we drive with our left foot on the foot rest or on the floor. In that instance it is quicker to move your right foot from the adjacent pedal than move your left foot all the way over or up to the brake pedal.

Surely given the context of a Superb IV, which is DSG only, you would assume I meant while driving an auto. Of course Joe Public isn't going to left foot brake in a manual car.

 

There are many scenarios where it's perfectly reasonable for a driver to use left foot braking in daily driving, especially an auto. For example, in dense traffic, I'll use both feet for quicker reactions to surrounding traffic. On B-roads, I'll use left foot braking to tuck the car in tighter in corners. It's also smoother in my experience. Having two feet hovering over two pedals makes sense, no?

 

This video is great and makes good points, can't wait for you to say they're all BS points. 

 

Thing is we call them Autos, they are 2 pedal cars, but they are not Auto in the traditional term. Like you can instantly be on foot / parking brakes 

and accelerator.  'Automated Manuals / Dual Clutch.

The DSG's / S-Tronics in various flavours can have brain farts with a bit of a slight touch of brake.

Try hand controls with a DSG and you will see what i mean.

 

Hybrid drive is changing things greatly as to the instantaneous drive to wheels and the need for electric intervention.

Same thing with EV's, be that FWD, RWD or AWD, Part time AWD , also Part Time AWD as might happen with Hybrids.

Where you can disable TC or ESP or both then things can get interesting rather quickly.

 

Another thing on this forum is that nearly everyone can drive and does drive and might well have experiences of Auto's, DSG's, ASG's, CVT's Servo Clutches and various versions of 2 pedal cars and nipping on or trying to.

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54 minutes ago, eurotripwagen said:

@Roottootemblowinootsoot If Skoda handled like an Audi, it would be priced like an Audi. Who in their mind spends Audi money on a Skoda?


LOL... Any modern MQB based Skoda can probably be made to handle better than most stock Audis (which are hardly a handling reference in the first place, come on) with a minimum cost, certainly not the reason of the Audi's price. Some, like an Octy vRS 245 with the VAQ diff for example, do it even stock. In fact I think handling is probably the least expensive department in an Audi's development :D  "just make it steady for 250km/h Autobahn trips >>> CHECK, car is ready!" 

My DCC Sportline hatch with just a rear arb upgrade drives better than a 2014 Audi S3 hatchback I had test driven back in the day, now that was a real understeer hero. I can't induce understeer even if I try now, at or above most speed limits.


PS. Please don't interpret this as a "Skoda is better than Audi" statement, I am referring only to the handling aspect of a regular Audi against a regular Skoda and how much is really between them.

1 hour ago, eurotripwagen said:

 

If Skoda handled like an Audi, it would be priced like an Audi. Who in their mind spends Audi money on a Skoda?

 

I prefer to spend Skoda money on an Audi, it's called a Skoda.

44 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

The DSG's / S-Tronics in various flavours can have brain farts with a bit of a slight touch of brake.

Try hand controls with a DSG and you will see what i mean.

I agree on brain farts when both pedals are used, however I've adapted my two foot 'technique' to suit the DSG. Modern DSG's are a lot better than before to be fair, I hated when my old B6 Passat would cut all power the moment i tapped the brake mid corner even with the slightest throttle.

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