The title says it all, and by flat i mean totally horizontal which is level with the boot area.  Thanks

17 minutes ago, Hudson1 said:

The title says it all, and by flat i mean totally horizontal which is level with the boot area.  Thanks

Hi,

No they don't. A ~2" step remains, when the back rests are folded down.

 

Unless you get the special option in the boot. Sorry I can't remember Its name:

Something like flat floor boot or double floor boot... Sorry I'm not a native English speaker...  

Only with the variable boot floor option. 

2 hours ago, Gizmo said:

Only with the variable boot floor option. 

 

I agree that you'd need the variable boot floor, but even then when you fold down the back seats, is the whole area flat? It's certainly not flat on my Octavia which has a variable boot floor and from the picture below it looks very much the same for the Superb.

 

Put it this way, I wouldn't have a problem carying say a large sheet of glass in my Karoq, because the rear seat bases fold up and then the seat back folds down to be perfectly flat, but I'd have reservations carrying it in my Octavia because the rear seat back folds down on to the rear seat base which creates an incline.

 

 

do the rer seat squabs fold forward or be removed?  On our octavia i think they can and on on the fabia they could so things go flat

8 hours ago, skomaz said:

do the rer seat squabs fold forward or be removed?  On our octavia i think they can and on on the fabia they could so things go flat

No, they don't fold and can't be removed easily. Removing the headrests lets the seat back fold flatter.

18 minutes ago, D402 said:

No, they don't fold and can't be removed easily. Removing the headrests lets the seat back fold flatter.

 

Are you absolutely sure the rear seat bases don't flip up like they do on the Mk2?

 

They are hinged at the front. Pull them up from the rear. They may need a good pull if they've never been lifted.

 

 

The hinge is easily removed, and you can take the entire bases away from the car to get a totally flat load area.

No, they definitely don’t hinge upwards.

 

I think it might be something to do with legislation as the squabs were not hinged on my 2017 Range Rover, my 2018 Velar or 2019 Superb Estate.

 

it seems odd that these 3 vehicles weren’t capable of a flat load space which could easily have been achieved by hinged squabs IF the manufacturer was allowed to do so..

 

for the record, the Superb has exceeded my expectations in every respect whereas the 2 JLR products were disposed of quickly as they were no where near as satisfying as they should have been for the money. (in fact the Range Rover was rejected after 9 trips to the garage in 3 months and they still couldn’t sort it...)

It would seem you are right. How odd that Skoda would remove such a useful feature.

 

On 10/05/2019 at 04:39, digifish said:

Note, you may need to replace a clip after doing this ... 

 

Guide the seat bench -1- in -direction of arrow- on both sides out of the crash hooks -2- on the left and right.

 

 

 

I'm taking a pure guess at this just because it happened with another car I owned, but when they introduced their new model, the manufacturer relocated something ( may have been the petrol tank ) to under the rear seats therefore the folding mechanism was no longer possible.

The mk2 Octavia has the fuel tank under the rear seats, as most cars do, but has the folding seat bases as per my original picture.

 

As the removal procedure terms them as "crash hooks" - I assume that this change has been brought about by crash legislation.

Could the non-tilting seat bases be for reasons of convenience? It is a bit of a faff having to tilt the seat bases in the MK2 Octavia before the seat backs can be lowered. In the MK3 the seat backs can be lowered very quickly, and on some trim levels there are quick release levers in the boot making it even easier.

 

Who knows, you may well be correct. Used to be able to lift seat bases in older Passat estate but that too has been changed. And whilst Ford Focus used to be perfectly flat, seat bases on latest model doesn't appear to lift ( I'm only going on pics, have never checked the new model ).

But plenty of other cars have flat load bays - a 3 series doesn't but a 5 series does. I believe all Volvo estates still go perfectly flat as does the E-Class. And the latest Toyota Corolla Touring which has recently been released - seats fold flat on that.

 

I'm guessing there's been a design change rather than it being legislation related. Or perhaps the old design was so pi55 poor that... 

 

 

Edited 4 June, 20205 yr by Guest

Skoda have been among the leaders for boot capacity for many years. Maybe they are prioritizing sheer capacity over a flat floor.

 

44 minutes ago, OldBoyScout said:

Could the non-tilting seat bases be for reasons of convenience? It is a bit of a faff having to tilt the seat bases in the MK2 Octavia before the seat backs can be lowered. In the MK3 the seat backs can be lowered very quickly, and on some trim levels there are quick release levers in the boot making it even easier.

 

 

You don't have to tilt the seat bases in the MK2 Octavia before the seat backs can be lowered.

 

They can be lowered as equally quickly as the MK3. Just push the button on the top corner and there you go, down she drops........

 

Just removing or tilting the seat bases allows the backrests better folding flat / flatter. (not done mine for ages).

Tis very easy to lift the seat bases too though iirc. matter of seconds.........pull up at front then lift up at the back. Simples. 

I bought my 2002 Octavie estate in 2005 from a chauffeur friend who had put 188000 miles on it all of which doing airport runs often with only one passenger, he folded down the rear seats and I remarked that the backrest was not flat, could he not fold up the seat squabs, he said no it was impossible.

 

Never being one to take anything as gospel without putting it to the test I pushed and pulled in all directions, eventually the front of the squab lifted allowing it to fold forward which further revealed that the squabs could be removed entirely.

 

To say he was pi55ed off would be an understatement

 

The Yeti has great flexibility for my needs, having made a raised boot floor for storage I now have the problem of a step down at the front when the seats are folded forward or removed.

Edited 4 June, 20205 yr by J.R.

5 hours ago, Scot5 said:

Who knows, you may well be correct. Used to be able to lift seat bases in older Passat estate but that too has been changed. And whilst Ford Focus used to be perfectly flat, seat bases on latest model doesn't appear to lift ( I'm only going on pics, have never checked the new model ).

But plenty of other cars have flat load bays - a 3 series doesn't but a 5 series does. I believe all Volvo estates still go perfectly flat as does the E-Class. And the latest Toyota Corolla Touring which has recently been released - seats fold flat on that.

 

I'm guessing there's been a design change rather than it being legislation related. Or perhaps the old design was so pi55 poor that... 

 

 

I've had Volvo and 5-series and E-class estates and they did all go flat -- but the reason for all of them is probably that the boot floor level is a lot higher to start off with than the Superb, so the luggage area is shallower and holds less but it's easier to get the seats to fold flat with a higher floor level.

Edited 4 June, 20205 yr by IanJD

It was easy to remove the MKII rear seat base and the loading area was indeed completely flat. Even if they could be removed, finding and uncoupling the heated seat connections where fitted would be a pain. 

Thank you for all the info, i want a an estate where the floor is totally flat so maybe i need to look at the V90 etc. Cheers.

3 hours ago, Hudson1 said:

Thank you for all the info, i want a an estate where the floor is totally flat so maybe i need to look at the V90 etc. Cheers.

 

Any particular reason why? You're not going in to the funeral business by any chance?

 

I know where you're coming from tho. Carrying around a digital keyboard was never an issue in my V70s but wouldn't dream of transporting it in the Octavia.

 

In addition to those I mentioned above, I'm struggling to think of many estates with 100% flat load bays I've looked at. The Jaguar XF estate was one, I can't think of any VW group estate car, Ford Mondeo ( as long as you don't go for the Hybrid ) is another. 

Edited 5 June, 20205 yr by Guest

Thanks for that..... no, not a funeral director, but i have loaned a car with a totally flat boot and it was very useful, having the rear seats up at an angle reduces the use somewhat so why bother when i can get one with a totally flat area, i will look at the ones mentioned.

If you remove the three headrests the floor will fold flat, it will not look like it until you get some weight on it.

Hows the Pug going Phil ?

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Hows the Pug going Phil ?

I am really pleased with it, although with lockdown I have not had much use of it, no long runs, just a couple of trips to the Post Office every day. I have done 800 miles in the 3 months  and hardly used any petrol, still shows 200 mile range from new when I collected it with a full tank

I charge it a couple of times a week and 95% has been on electric power.

No rattles or squeaks and nothing has fallen off!

Not had to use it for any work trips so have not loaded it up yet, I know it is smaller than the Superb so will not be dissapointed when I cannot get so much in it.

My work collegues used to call the Superb 'The Tardis' they cou;ld not belive how much you could get in it!

btw, my old car is for sale in a garage in Bedford if anyone is looking for a fully loaded 280, cannot remember the name of the showrooms.