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Oil quality/ service intervals from backstreet garage

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Hi,

 

FYI I'm a member here having owned 2 Octavia's. I now have a Leon 2.0 CR Tdi but posting as I know this applies to the engine rather than the car and I'm already a member here!

 

I have a lovely 16 plate Leon, which has been on dealership history/lease previous to my ownership, which has been 'Long Life' servicing and motorway miles. I'm now thinking about it's next service, and using the very reliable back street mechanics I have a good relationship with. 

 

As this car has more 'tech' than my old Octavia's, is there anything software wise that is likely to be missed by my old faithful garage?

 

And, my main curiosity - they use a standard Oil for all their work. I know it's a bit neurotic, but my old 2.0 PD Tdi turbos suffered with age - Is it worth me buying the Castrol Edge oil (pretty sure that's the recommended oil for the engine) and taking it to them for servicing my CR Leon? I'm wondering whether it will actually make a difference down the line in terms of the Turbo as well as the engine as the car ages? This is something I have thought about, and will no doubt be slightly offensive to the nice blokes at my garage so I'd rather not do it unless I feel it's justified...?

 

Thanks in advance

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What is their standard oil? Does it meet 507 00 spec? The latter is all that matters really.

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I'm not sure - they have a huge barrel of the stuff - is it the sort of thing they would know? Very helpful thanks

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So I guess my question is what are the gains of say the Castrol Edge Oil, vs a lower priced Oil that meets the same specs? I'm a cynical as they come but I would think the deterioration of a lower priced oil is faster than the expensive ones (even if SOME of that money goes on the branding). 

 

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Why not just ask what the 'Bulk' oil is that they have.

It may be 'Quantum' / Fuchs', Comma or one of many other oils used in garages which is perfectly good considering that Castrol is nothing special and not VW UK's choice anymore.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/476057-vag-independent-uses-fusch-oils

 

 

 

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Thank you guys.

 

So what we're saying is there is no difference between the oils they use for long/short service schedules, it's simply an approved lubricant to spec?

(at main dealers)

'We' are saying something like that in this case.

 

For a TDI the oil is to VW 504 / 507.      So is that what they use?

So VW 507 can be used for Fixed or Variable servicing. It is Long Life Oil. 

 

For a TSI it is VW 504 / 507 for Fixed or Variable.  That is the VW504 bit.    Long Life oil. 5w 30 FS III.

But for Fixed Servicing VW 502 can be used.  that would be 5w 40 FS or even 0w 40 FS.

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Really really helpful thank you so much !

3 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

'We' are saying something like that in this case.

 

For a TDI the oil is to VW 504 / 507.      So is that what they use?

So VW 507 can be used for Fixed or Variable servicing. It is Long Life Oil. 

 

For a TSI it is VW 504 / 507 for Fixed or Variable.  That is the VW504 bit.    Long Life oil. 5w 30 FS III.

But for Fixed Servicing VW 502 can be used.  that would be 5w 40 FS or even 0w 40 FS.

 

A difficult one for me this, because I would be very reluctant to pay anything like main dealer charges, but equally I don't think a one-size-fits-all oil is likely to be much good. I'd go and have a chat with the guys, explain your a bit worried and if the oil they use isn't to spec ask if you can provide your own. I do believe oil and filter changes do more for engine life and reliability than just about anything else maintenance wise.  

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I will run this by them and have a chat following the useful info provided. I fully trust my mechanics to install the correct grade oil for the engine, the main thing is for me to protect my turbo and keep things running well. I always over change my oil. I can’t help but feel as though these service schedules are simply designed to satisfy the fleet market, and that I should really be aiming to change oils more regularly now the car is in my hands. Similarly the timing belt intervals are huge on that engine. Seat advised the same. I’ll be doing it well in advance. 
 


 

 

9,400 miles fixed service intervals are not to satisfy the fleet market,

and 18,000-20,000 miles flexible might well suit those running a TDI for high miles annually and not doing short trips with lots of cold starts.

http://volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/regimes

 

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That’s exactly what I mean for the 20k intervals. Not the short ones. Seems the only difference between the two is user related?

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