I was out driving a 2018 Superb Combi 1.4 Style Business model with 17" Pirelli Cinturato tires and I was surpriced that it felt quite a bit more noisy in the cabin than my old 2013 Octavia with 16" steel Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons G2.

 

I know there is a difference between 16" and 17" but I would also guess the superb was much better noise insulated?

 

Is it more noisy because of the tires, the being bigger and having more air or it being a combi (The cover in the back was not open while driving)

I think the Pirelli tyres are very susceptible to different road surfaces.

 

i have a Combi with 18 inch wheels and on some smooth surfaces, the noise for the tyres is significant and even intrusive. Then on a super smooth surface, they are completely silent.

 

I did look into changing them but when I found it would cost £600+ I decided I could live with them!
 

I put together a review of my car on YouTube, and the film at14.00 to 14.41 shows the difference in surface noise on two different surfaces.

 

link is here if you want to check it out. 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, FatWolfie said:

I think the Pirelli tyres are very susceptible to different road surfaces.

 

i have a Combi with 18 inch wheels and on some smooth surfaces, the noise for the tyres is significant and even intrusive. Then on a super smooth surface, they are completely silent.

 

I did look into changing them but when I found it would cost £600+ I decided I could live with them!
 

I put together a review of my car on YouTube, and the film at14.00 to 14.41 shows the difference in surface noise on two different surfaces.

 

link is here if you want to check it out. 

 

Nice video and year that is a big difference!

 

I would get them replaced with Crossclimate+, but would just love to hear someone who have tried to change them if it made a big difference, also on rough roads as I still find it wierd if my octavia is more silent

I think a lot of it is just down to the vehicle itself. Mine on 19’s is quite coarse on some surfaces but fantastic and very quiet on others. I’ve been in some with 17’s and they seem to be very similar. My last vehicle was Very quiet, even at motorway speeds, which allowed me to drive for long periods with very little fatigue. It did have double glazed windows though, so that helped. The superb is a fantastic car, but just seems to me to be that bit louder on the road than it really should be. 

Edited 15 September, 20205 yr by UndertheRadar

2 hours ago, UndertheRadar said:

I think a lot of it is just down to the vehicle itself. Mine on 19’s is quite coarse on some surfaces but fantastic and very quiet on others. I’ve been in some with 17’s and they seem to be very similar. My last vehicle was Very quiet, even at motorway speeds, which allowed me to drive for long periods with very little fatigue. It did have double glazed windows though, so that helped. The superb is a fantastic car, but just seems to me to be that bit louder on the road than it really should be. 

 

So you dont think getting other tires will make a big difference?

8 hours ago, Mech0z said:

Nice video and year that is a big difference!

 

I would get them replaced with Crossclimate+, but would just love to hear someone who have tried to change them if it made a big difference, also on rough roads as I still find it wierd if my octavia is more silent

Thanks for the kind comment!

 

it was the Crossclimates I was considering but when I got them priced up at £600 I decided that I would live with the Pirelli’s for a bit longer...and just turn the radio up 😀

3 hours ago, Mech0z said:

 

So you dont think getting other tires will make a big difference?

I have a set of 18” wheels here at the minute waiting for winter tyres to arrive. The winters have quite a low dB rating, so I’ll know better from my own experience at that point with this car.  But from other people’s cars I’ve been in, and other cars I’ve driven that Weren’t my own, they all just seem to be that bit noisier than you would expect over certain types of surfaces. My personal opinion would be a bit more sound insulation would transform the car rather than tyre choice for the most part. Obviously the tyres Will play their part to a degree as well. It’s just going to depend on your expectation as to how much of a difference they make. I’d only change them for a different tyre once the ones you have wear out. 

The recent review of All-Weather Tyres by TyreReviews, mentioned in a couple of other tyre threads, is worth looking at for noise + all aspects.  The 25min Youtube link is good too.  Apologies for those who read my recent thread here, as this repeats much noted there.

 

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2020-Tyre-Reviews-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm

 

They've 2 noise categories and I was more interested in the 2nd rough road noise chart.  My Karoq on 17" Bridgestone Turanza Summers is pretty quiet on smooth tarmac, but some roar and bump thump is noticeable on the rough, but not really horrendous.  (The review found that the tyres were typically 9-10dB noisier over rough roads than smooth roads and I assume this is a general truism, whatever the tyre type).

 

It's also noticeable with rough road noise that all A-W tyres, except for the Michelin X-Climate, are quieter than a well regarded quiet summer tyre (Goodyear Efficient Grip) used as a control comparison.  Low road noise and ride quality is important to me for general driving pleasure, so I do welcome any reduction in this noise, but not at any great expense of other aspects - so in a year or so, am looking at either the Goodyear G3 or Bridgestone.

 

Both good all-round, with low rolling resistance & good ride, but the Bridgestone was top of the heap on latter.  The G3's better in snow, but as I live in SE England not quite so important.  Auto-Bild found the Bridgestone wore quickly - a pity, so currently directed towards the G3's.  TyreReviews seem to regard this new tyre as quite an achievement.

 

Autobild's noise comparisons are to be taken with a pinch of salt, as only measured outside the car, whereas TyreReviews in this comparison, were taken inside & done with considerable care.

 

Winter tyres also seem to be pretty comfy & quiet, possibly even more so, but I'm not prepared to change tyres twice yearly, nor to rely on summer tyres, as we do get substantial snow occasionally.  No Pirelli's were tested.

Edited 25 October, 20205 yr by croquemonsieur

I am baffled by this thread, the Op refers to Pirelli Cinturato

But these come in summer P7 (and there is a new greener version)

There is also a Cinturato all season (and all season plus)

 

Don’t take this wrong way, but which version is being discussed

& low rolling resistance actually means lower friction / grip.

That is what ECO tyres do, reduce grip.

Well.... in the review, the tyre with the lowest rolling resistance had the best dry grip and did well in the wet too and the tyres I highlighted also did well on all 3 counts.  I doubt any in the reviews were specifically ECO tyres though, just good all-round tyres - have you any in mind that illustrate your point?

The following review did include both the new Goodyear 4 Seasons Gen 3 & the Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF tyres.

 

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2020-Auto-Bild-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm

 

They concluded both were similar for noise levels, but as I've noted elsewhere, their assessments here are probably of limited value, as they were only measured outside the car, not inside, whereas they were done inside in the TyreReviews comparison.

 

 

@croquemonsieur   ECO does not mean Budget it means the 'Green' that Pirelli choose to use.

 

Maybe believe reviews and tests less especially ones from Germany.  That amount of times that Pirelli and Continental get good reviews and when you drive a car with the ones rated high you think WTF.