On my 2020 Octavia MkIII Scout, with the Tire Pressure Monitoring System, the only user interface that I find for it is in the Car settings, to set "the tires are good now".

I don't see any way to see what the monitoring system currently is detecting. On this car, is TPMS just an "idiot light"? That is, get the pressure in the tires right, "set", and there will never be any interaction with the system unless/until the system detects that a wheel is spinning differently than the others/ than before? It would be nice if it would actually show "Your pressure is ..." for each tire.

thanks,

Jay

 

The system you'd prefer has sensors in each wheel.

Hi @john999boy, Yes, it would require that, there was never any doubt.

So, are you saying that the Octavia MkIII (2020) definitively lacks this more advanced tire pressure monitoring system, and has only the wheel spin speed differential idiot light display?

thanks,

Jay

 

I don't think (but am happy to be proved wrong) that any Skoda cars have the 'advanced' version as standard - maybe not even as an option either.

The “ idiot light” system has worked well in my previous Yeti and current Kodiaq and informed me of a screw in the tyre causing a slow leak on both occasions.

It can be retrofitted as you want, with active monitoring, but it definitely doesn't do it as standard.

 

A couple of people on the Facebook vRS groups have done it. Not sure on cost, probably depends how much of it you could do yourself.

Direct systems using sensors should have a control module at address 65.

 

If there is no control module, you definitely have in-direct ABS based TPMS.

The direct systems are more of a pain than useful. The sensors are normally out and show incorrect pressures. Then there can be issues with the sensors not connecting properly etc. Sometimes less is more with certaim systems. I routinely check my pressures every 2 to 3 days and my guage is more accurate than any sensor.

47 minutes ago, Ecomatt said:

The direct systems are more of a pain than useful. The sensors are normally out and show incorrect pressures. Then there can be issues with the sensors not connecting properly etc.

I never once had an issue with the VAG direct system I retrofitted to my MK2 Octavia

 

All four sensors agreed with each other and my pressure gauge which is good enough for me. When I did get a puncture, watching the pressure dropping certainly helps in planning how quickly I needed to pull over too.

 

It's something I want to retrofit on my MK3 in the future as I quite like the extra info.

The issue with the sensors in the tyres, is when they get damaged by a tyre fitter or when they need replacing.

In both cases the sensors are not cheap.

 

The simple system based off ABS systems doesn't give the pressure, but it does give a lot of warning, so you can pull over.

Certainly enough to get you to a suitable bit of hard shoulder/emergency bay.

 

Would pressures be nice, sure, however I think many people don't check a display page regularly and a warning light is likely to be more effective than asking them to look at numbers.

 

If the direct TPMS detects a pressure loss, it'll also cause a warning light

 

It also has settings for normal and full load, when combined with factory xenons (with level sensors) it was also able to detect the car was loaded (3 rear passengers) and then complained I hadn't upped the pressures to compensate

 

 

5 minutes ago, langers2k said:

If the direct TPMS detects a pressure loss, it'll also cause a warning light

 

It also has settings for normal and full load, when combined with factory xenons (with level sensors) it was also able to detect the car was loaded (3 rear passengers) and then complained I hadn't upped the pressures to compensate

 

 

 

Sorry, yes I know, the point I was trying (and failing to make) is that for most people a cheap/reliable system that puts a light on and can't be easily damaged by a tyre bar is probably enough for most.

 

I do agree it would be nice if the full version was a inexpensive option though.

 

Is the system you fitted an actual VW system or aftermarket?

Link the car to Facebook and Google, and it'll even go so far as to say "Car load heavy for current tire pressure; is that Uncle Henry I see sitting in the back seat?" 

 

5 minutes ago, langers2k said:

If the direct TPMS detects a pressure loss, it'll also cause a warning light

 

It also has settings for normal and full load, when combined with factory xenons (with level sensors) it was also able to detect the car was loaded (3 rear passengers) and then complained I hadn't upped the pressures to compensate

 

 

3 hours ago, cheezemonkhai said:

The issue with the sensors in the tyres, is when they get damaged by a tyre fitter or when they need replacing.

In both cases the sensors are not cheap.

I had a sensor damaged on a Peugeot 407 by a novice tyre fitter. It was replaced at a cost of about £100 then. Fast forward to 2013 when it cost me £125 to spec them on a new VW and they worked perfectly until selling the car a few years later. The big negative was that I'd have needed to fit new sensors in the winter wheels to get the same functionality. Something catered for with the 'old' system!

Edited 10 February, 20215 yr by john999boy
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4 minutes ago, john999boy said:

I had a sensor damaged on a Peugeot 407 but a novice tyre fitter. It was replaced at a cost of about £100 then. Fast forward to 2013 when it cost me £125 to spec them on a new VW and they worked perfectly until selling the car a few years later. The big negative was that I'd have needed to fit new sensors in the winter wheels to get the same functionality. Something catered for with the 'old' system!

 

Hadn't even thought of that, but yes adding wheels, sensors and tyres suddenly moves from about £500 to about £1k and makes it far less likely.

1 hour ago, cheezemonkhai said:

I do agree it would be nice if the full version was a inexpensive option though.

 

Is the system you fitted an actual VW system or aftermarket?

 

It was genuine VW.

 

A full genuine direct TPMS system for MQB cars (wiring, control module and 4 sensors) is about £100-150 at the moment so I'd consider that quite inexpensive

 

If you pick the right sensors, they will auto configure within a few 100m if you swap the tyres round or do a summer <-> winter swap. Works quite well in my experience.

1 hour ago, john999boy said:

I had a sensor damaged on a Peugeot 407 but a novice tyre fitter. It was replaced at a cost of about £100 then. Fast forward to 2013 when it cost me £125 to spec them on a new VW and they worked perfectly until selling the car a few years later. The big negative was that I'd have needed to fit new sensors in the winter wheels to get the same functionality. Something catered for with the 'old' system!

 

Had them on a 407 previously too but they were notorious for rusting and the tip breaking off leaving you with a flat tyre. Mine were going white where the thread for the valve cap is so I had them removed and coded he TPMS monitoring out of the software.

I had the direct TPMS system on the Audi I had before my Octavia - after 9 years and 6 sets of tyres (it was an RS4 so it needed new tyres every 10k - 15k miles)  it was still working perfectly when I sold the car.

On 09/02/2021 at 15:59, Kenai said:

It can be retrofitted as you want, with active monitoring, but it definitely doesn't do it as standard.

 

A couple of people on the Facebook vRS groups have done it. Not sure on cost, probably depends how much of it you could do yourself.

Can u pls send me link of this. I would happily retrofited this...