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Felicia crank position sensor and aftermarket ignition

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Hi

 

I wonder if anyone is running no distributor-based ignition using OEM crank sensor?

I understand that only 1.3 versions had the sensor installed. Does 1.6 gearbox has the spot to fit it?

 

I'm not a Skoda owner. I'm building my Trabant and planning to use Felicia gearbox.

Originally Trabants 1.1 had Favourite based 4 gearboxes so Trabant driveshafts fit Felicia/Favourite gearboxes.

 

Thank you.

You've been of great help so far with other info.

 

 

11 minutes ago, Trabbi said:

Does 1.6 gearbox has the spot to fit it?

Yes, but it won't work, because 1.6 flywheel doesn't have cutouts that serve for position detection. And 1.3 flywheel won't fit. I think I've seen kit for 1.6, which used modified crankshaft pulley and sensor mounted next to it.

 

12 minutes ago, Trabbi said:

Originally Trabants 1.1 had Favourite based 4 gearboxes

 

gearbox is not based on Favorit (which never had 4 speed gearbox), it's Trabant's design, it's  just coincidence (probably due to centrally planned economies reusing same designs/licenses)

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Hi Papez

 

Yes, I've seen kits with external pulley and sensor/bracket dedicated to AEE engines, but I'd like to avoid it.

 

Just to doublecheck- 1.3 MPI gearbox with sensor has a trigger wheel and will work with Megajolt/Nodiz and similar?

 

Thanks for the info on Trabbi gearbox. Someone told me that it's based on Favorite.

No, in 1.3, engine's flywheel serves as a triggerwheel.

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Hi Papez

 

Thank you, even if it's bad news for me.

From what're writing, I understand I can only pair my engine with Skoda gearbox using flange/adapter and flywheel from 1.6?

 

I'm guessing 1.6 flywheel is thicker to compensate for the adapter ?

Would 1.3 gearbox, 1.6 flange and flywheel fit together?

I'd be still without the sensor, but ratios are probably more suited for my engine.

 

Thanks again.

 

Yep, that's right. Gearboxes are nearly identical, there are just some reinforcements around differential on the 1.6 and 1.9 casings. Oh, one thing, 40kW gearboxes are longer than 50kW - 1.3MPi 40kW has same ratios as 1.6, while post-facelift 1.3MPi 50kW is the shortest available.

 

BTW, why do you need crankshaft position sensor? 1.6 camshaft sensor wouldn't work?

@Papez @Trabbi - A crankshaft sensor (include flywheel sensors here) natively generates 1 ping per engine revolution. A camshaft sensor generates 1 ping every other engine revolution if it generates a ping every time the camshaft rotates. I think (but can't guarantee) that a Megajolt, Emerald or similar EMS can accommodate this in software.

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Thanks guys.

I've looked into Nodiz which accepts 36-1 or 60-2 trigger wheel only. 

I've contacted ME to establish if its more expensive ME100 accepts OEM wheels which it seems to do. 

 

Worse case scenario I'll use distributor based ignition like Aldon Amethyst or something from 123.

 

Papez, any Skoda box is a huge upgrade to Trabant 1.1 one.

They kept very short ratios to limit max. speed.  It keeps 4000rpm at 100km/h

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