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Fabia mk2 1.6 tdi injector problem

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Hello Folks

 

Had the 10 reg fabia mk2 1.6 tdi CAYA engine about 10 years,66k miles, haven't  done the diesel emmision fix.

Last couple of months, it developed a rough idel and annoying noise. Then last thursday, glow plug flashed and eningle management lit while driving, it turned out the inector 1 in faulty after VCDS scan. Car could still start but sounds not right, and glow plug flashes after start up.

 

Is the injector in faulty or the bad wiring?  

 

I've checked the resistance of the injectors. Injector 1 is 7.14,  can't get the figure from the rest injectors.

Tried to swap the connectors between injector 1 and 2, but the cable from the injector 2 is too short to reach injector 1. Car couldn't start with 3 injectors while injector 1's connector goes to the injector 2.

 

Just wanted to make sure that the new injector would fix this fault.

Can't source a new injector atm from well known parts store at the moment.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

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Mileage: 106240km-66014miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYA)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 DK    HW: 03L 906 023 DL
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H13 7507  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114014000500080000
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00050
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023DK 003001
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AH_003.rod
   VCID: 72EBBC24A5C9571BC5-8026

1 Fault Found:
9837 - Injector: Cylinder 1 (N30) 
          P0201 00 [101] - Circuit Malfunction
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 106243 km
                    Date: 2021.06.10
                    Time: 00:22:24

                    Engine RPM: 769.25 /min
                    Normed load value: 44.7 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 36 
                    Intake air temperature: 26 
                    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.101 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Error information regarding selected piezo output stage-LF_STATE_PPS_SPI[0]: 0
                    Injector valve 1: capacity-CAPA_INJ_MAIN[0]: 25.8211 
                    Voltage load of main injection cylinder 1-CHR_INJ_MAIN[0]: 1440.4 
                    Measured energy of main injection cylinder 1-EGY_INJ_MAIN[0]: 40.172 mJ
                    Supply voltage of analog output 1-VCC_1: 5.03 V
                    Supply voltage of analog output 2-VCC_2: 5.00 V

Readiness: 1110 1000

 

Edited by eesamnomercy

It’s a known issue I replaced mine about two years ago it can lead to excessive pressure in bore and internal damage, cost me €320 for injector and puller got injector from local specialist and puller from eBay, try darkside developments for advice or and vw specialist 

It is a known issue with the 1.6 TDi. I had one go on my Roomster.

 

The job of replacing the injectors themselves isn't too difficult and if you're alright with a set of spanners you should manage no bother. But the new units do have to be coded to the car with VCDS as you might well know.

  • Author

Thank your guys for the replies.

Do you change all of them, in pair or just replace the faulty one(ones)? 

I will keep this car for as long as it could last.

1 hour ago, eesamnomercy said:

Thank your guys for the replies.

Do you change all of them, in pair or just replace the faulty one(ones)? 

I will keep this car for as long as it could last.

 

Just replace the faulty one.

Just the faulty one 

11 hours ago, eesamnomercy said:

Thank your guys for the replies.

Do you change all of them, in pair or just replace the faulty one(ones)? 

I will keep this car for as long as it could last.

 

Yeah agreed with @sepulchraveand @joedemp just replace the faulty one. Obviously if you're feeling flush you can do all four, they will probably need doing eventually but they are items that you can just replace as they fail. Gives you time to save up for them! :D

  • Author

Thanks for the suggestions.

Now I just need to find the part.

Will try some local diesel specialists as new part seems lack of supply.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, eesamnomercy said:

Thanks for the suggestions.

Now I just need to find the part.

Will try some local diesel specialists as new part seems lack of supply.

 

 

 

 

There's plenty available, they're crazy money though, you might be able to get yours refurbished.

  • Author

The price for a brand-new one is around £350, and a refurbished one somewhere £150 to 200,covering 3months to 1 year warranty.

I might just wait a bit for the brand new one.

It's a Siemens VDO. 

Is this the only brand that making the new part?

 

 

When the injectors go on these, do they all go within a short amount of time or is it a case that one can go, but the rest might last for another 30,000 miles+?

  • Author

I have no idea, feeling like they are consumable parts. 

Hope the rest on my car could last a considerable time. If not, I will try change earlier after like reduced mpg, rough idle, annoying noise and shake on idle happen almost at same time again.

 

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