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LPG Install, Day 1. pics

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Well - Got a fair bit of progress made in just about 3 hours work only. :)

I will do my best to describe each pic. :)

The tank sat in its future position

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A table full of "bits" from both the powershot kit and the tank.

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The powershot wiring.... :eek: Not as bad as it looks. Basically involves a cut off / primer setup which needs activating via 2 switches, one a power on/off, the other a rocker switch to activate it once turned on. :D

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1 pikey modded boost pipe. The pvc pipe for my guage was way too small a bore, so using some "middling" pipe and a large quantity of super glue we were able to slide it over the pvc pipe and secure in place. This meant the T fitting supplied with the powershot kit could be used.

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And here is the kit. :D The bit on the left is the "goody goody bit" It controls the lpg injection. The thing on the right is the "don't f***in' touch it!" bit - takes the 200psi max tank pressure down to 40 psi, so the powershot regulates it easier. :) The bit out the left is the fuel feed, bit at the bottom is the boost feed. The bracket looks manky as it was heated up and "reformed" ;) with a hammer to suit my mounting point. :D

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something missing.... :confused:

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Aha! there it is - and its got a bit of tube going through an 'ole into it. :D

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The powershot kit in its new position. Might find a better way to mount it to the strut brace, but for now, its pretty ideal, convenient and very secure. :cool:

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This shows the fuel pipe going in to the pre-turbo, but post-MAF pipework. :) That bare pipe on the end of the red regulator is going to be where the main fuel feed is from the tank - at 200 psi tops. :eek: It was this fitting we couldn't match to the UK tank, which is what stopped more progress. :doh:

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This is the fuel pipe leaving the powershot kit. This is where the variable flow of lpg will come from, and head into the engine. :)

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The tank

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GAS! :woohoo: :D

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Good start :thumbup:

Excellent photo's, very interesting :thumbup:

Like the tank so much you posted the picture twice ey? ;):D

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Yeah,but in the last shot there'd been 3 holes drilled through my spare wheel well, one of them about 25mm in diameter. :eek: :rofl:

Barking Mad..:rofl:

I wish I were as handy, or brave...

Hats off to you Jason:thumbup:

I think your oil filler is going to hit that Powershot unit when your driving.

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I think your oil filler is going to hit that Powershot unit when your driving.

There was a good gap, but it might well need a bit of foam putting in. :thumbup:

And thats me - barking mad. Try anything once.... well, most things. ;)

I think your oil filler is going to hit that Powershot unit when your driving.

Go for Powerflexs poly bushes Jason!

Its looking pretty good. An interesting read for sure. :thumbup:

Bloody Interesting!

Can't wait to hear day 2 posts?

Best of luck

John

Go for Powerflexs poly bushes Jason!

Do they do them now?

Looking good :)

Any reason the high pressure stuff couldn't be left at the rear end of the car, so only the 40psi pressure goes in the feed to the front of the vehicle?

Also where will you be placing the filler location for the gas, I've seen a few snapshots on cars where they basically made another 'filler cap' on the opposite side of the normal one, or in the boot, or where a trailer hook might have gone :)

I'd be keen to avoid having something cable-tied to the strut brace as that has to come off far too often to my liking anyway, although I may ask Ross to show me how to change the filter without taking it off :o

Remortgaging yet for the insurance then :P

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:rofl:

Leaving the stuff at the back was an option but think of it like this.... If the regulator is at the back, think of the work it will have to do to push the lpg down 4 metres+ of fuel pipe to get it into the airbox pipe..... then think of that boost guage tee.... Instead of it filling up just a few inches of pipework, having the regulator in the back would mean the boost would need to fill up 4 metres+ of boost pipe. ;) Basically, the mechanics of it meant that (in my and the lpg expert helping me out's opinion) it was better to have it in the front. Means the only line running under the car can be the 1 fuel line (weight saving ya know :P)

Also, as I'm a "open your bonnet tart", it looks GOOD sat where it is. :P ;)

Good to see you really are making progress Jason, didn't seem to take you long at all.

However your mechanical prowess and technical professionlism astounds me :rofl: :rofl:

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I'm loving those cable ties mate. :P

Well done!

:eek: Please tell me you are joking with having the pressure regulator and mixer swaying about on cable ties mate! They are going to sway back and forth when you drive which could cause a pipe to get loose or for the ties to break and the units and piping to fall onto a hot engine, if either happens you are looking at one hell of a fire mate. Fix it securely in the engine bay somewhere mate for gods sake or you are driving a ticking bomb !

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Its only temporary, and it literally does hardly move at all. Ideally I want a bracket a little like the rear ARB one, but on a smaller scale so it can wrap right around the strut brace and do up with a spanner.

Oh, and after careful offering up of the two regs, there is absolutely no other place it can go. Option number two was to have the braket against the head of the engine, and bolt it to that. :eek: :D It will be fine where it is, and there's no pressure points where pipework could get worn and break. Its nice and easy to twiddle all the knobs from there too.

Adaptors are usually freely available off the shelf from BSS, I think they are nationwide anyway. You get pressure test certification with them if required

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Yeah, my mate is certain he can get the adaptor. But I need to ring up the place I got the tank from to get some of the UK spec 6mm copper pipe, specially lagged too. Need that as the fuel line they supplied wasn't really up to the job (to meet UK lpg standards)

Once its all plumbed in, does it need any kind of safety inspection?

I too would be a little concerned about the fatigue on that pipe from it not having a solid mounting location.

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All the pipes featured are just rubber fuel lines, very flexible indeed, but thick sidewalls. None of those will fatigue any time soon. It can't move side to side as its attached to the strut brace - the boost feed coming in from 6 o'clock holds it down so it can't rock on its mount.

It really is solid enough where it is,but like I said, ultimately there shall be a proper bracket made to go around the brace and secure it with nuts and bolts, not zip ties. :)

Jason,

Looking good but I would be concerned about having unprotected rubber hose in the position you appear to have it as it leaves the poershot. This area will get bloody hot and this type of tubing dont like that! Hate you to have a gas leak!

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Might be a good idea to wrap them in some kind of metallic heat shield type material. All the pictures on the installation guide show it as bare rubber hoses. The only one at pressure will be the one coming in from the right hand side, which is going to be nowhere near any engine "hot bits", thank god. :) (and that pipe will be 6mm lagged copper pipe so much less susceptable to heat issues ;))

Me too - with LPG safety is paramount. I haven't met up with the potential fitter (yet) as still awaiting the insurance company's response :(

wouldn't touch it with a barge pole myself. Always a certified engineer!. god help you!

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wouldn't touch it with a barge pole myself. Always a certified engineer!. god help you!

ooooh, no need to bring religion into this. [spits] :D :P

The chap actually doing the majority of the work is well experienced with lpg installs, but this is the first diesel, and it's a doddle compared to a V8 lpg system as there's no need to touch the injectors and fuelling side of things. I especially like the fact there's no ECU twiddling and its switchable a "bit" like the one click, but with me it will be remapped / uber remapped. :D

Trust me..... [can feel the lack of trust coming over the Briskoda airwaves]

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