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Hello my friends 

I want to ask

Do you feel that when pressing the brake pedal, more pressure is needed to stop the car ? I feel the car is heavy !

Or maybe the car is only make 700km and the brakes are new ?

Thank you

 

PHEV?

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Etec 1.5

I do have the same feeling on my vRS DSG... It's almost 1,800 miles now, so we'll see....

I also have the same feeling. Having almost 9000 km now. Was driving a 2017 A45 AMG the other day and stopping performance was like day and night. I know I can't really compare these two cars but still I think stopping performance shouldn't be that big. 

1 minute ago, TheUltraRunner said:

I also have the same feeling. Having almost 9000 km now. Was driving a 2017 A45 AMG the other day and stopping performance was like day and night. I know I can't really compare these two cars but still I think stopping performance shouldn't be that big. 

Do you feel any difference in the brake pedal in sports mode, compared to normal (for example)?

Edited by Tishout

1 minute ago, Tishout said:

Do you feel any difference in the brake pedal in sports mode, compared to normal (for example)?

was just think about this. But I can't really tell. In everyday driving I try to minimize brake usage so I don't use brakes much. And I can't  remember of any real hard breaking in the last couple of 100 kms when driving normally. 

Brakes on my VRS dsg are superb I have to say

1 minute ago, parsey83 said:

Brakes on my VRS dsg are superb I have to say

Too bad you're so far away to compare... :)

I have felt the same in my 2021 VRS wagon. It has 1100kms. The pedal seems heavy, especially compared with our 2015 VW Golf Alltrack which is a very similar car from VAG.

The Golf's brakes bite immediately. I have to ease up the pressure as it comes to a halt to avoid it being jerky - sorry if I haven't expressed that well.

However, although the Skoda feels heavy (and it is almost 200kg heavier) it seems the stopping power is there. I have tried a few emergency stops and they work well.

I guess it is a decision by Skoda to provide a different feel to their car. And perhaps I will end up preferring the Skoda's brakes to those of the VW.

 

I have got an early Mk3 Octavia and I find the brakes are very sensitive but like @TheUltraRunner I avoid heavy braking mostly because I drive to get good consumption and I think it is safer way to drive anyway (less reactive and more anticipatory driving).

Despite its relative vast internal space the new 1.5tsi Mk4 Octavia is relatively light at 1327kg, so no it is not heavy, however the new engine is probably like my 1.4tsi and offers very little engine braking, possibly even less with active cylinder deactivation. Other threads have also suggested that the dsg model's may now coast 'out of gear' in normal mode whereas before it was only available in economy mode?

 

Skoda make a big thing about charging the battery from regen braking, so maybe light applications only initiate the regen process and real braking only with more determined application? I don't have this feature on my 2014 Octavia.

I also avoid heavy braking as much as possible. But my VRS Wagon is 1505 kgs so it is going need more stoping power.

When I talk about the lightness or heaviness of the brakes I was especially talking about gentle stopping around town.

The VW brake pedal is very sensitive. One can call the Skoda heavy, or one could say it is more progressive.

I think it is a choice the respective design teams made.

 

Another place I can notice the difference is under adaptive cruise control. If the car needs to brake to a full stop due to the car in front doing the same it brakes later and harder than I would do myself under the same circumstances. It is disconcerting since I can't avoid the feeling that it is not going to stop in time.

 

Edited by DaveFromSydney
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6 hours ago, DaveFromSydney said:

The Golf's brakes bite immediately. I have to ease up the pressure as it comes to a halt to avoid it being jerky - sorry if I haven't expressed that well.

However, although the Skoda feels heavy (and it is almost 200kg heavier) it seems the stopping power is there. I have tried a few emergency stops and they work well.

It's dead clear I think.

 

You're saying the Skoda's kerb weight is higher, not the pedal effort is 200kg greater?

2 hours ago, KenONeill said:

it's dead clear I think. You're saying the Skoda's kerb weight is higher, not the pedal effort is 200kg greater?

That is correct. It's a heavier car.

I only apologized because the preceding sentence seemed a bit clumsy but I could not immediately express myself better.

My native language IS English - indeed my father was born in Halifax, Yorks, and I was born in Australia.

Edited by DaveFromSydney

According to the handbook, the Octy iV is 1620kg. I have ours set to maximum regen braking and the amount of regen depends on the brake pressure or the gradient of the road. I find that the regen does most of the braking, coupled with light braking pressure if needed. They are excellent and progressively better as the brake pedal is applied.

If you have PHEV brakes feel different because of regen.

1 hour ago, DaveFromSydney said:

My native language IS English - indeed my father was born in Halifax, Yorks, and I was born in Australia.

SO which is your native language then, Yorkshire, Strine, or English? ;) 

riding on this thread, does the 1.5 TSi E-TEC comes with Regen Brakes? 

30 minutes ago, stridercombi said:

riding on this thread, does the 1.5 TSi E-TEC comes with Regen Brakes? 

Yes. 

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