Yes another newbie asking the same old proverbial cherry question. Currently have a 2008 Freelander 2.  Have been told by the boss she has to go as she is scared to drive it due to crankshaft position sensor faults. Have told her am 99% certain now sorted but to no avail.

Our previous vehicle was a Volvo V70 which gave us good service so I immediately thought ah yes another V70. Still trying to sort out which engine, trim level, etc the usual things.  Whilst trawling the net somehow got onto reading a review of a Superb which sounded not bad at all.

Never even been in one yet. So to cut a long story short will look at Superbs and Octavias estates but if I could have a few pointers in the right direction. There will be no long mileage trips, well very rare, mostly around town and 50 miles to the coast etc. I like diesels but is not really

a requirement with this sort of usage. I prefer autos, am getting lazy. Have enough gearchange fun with my classic Citroen. We well, she , likes things like heated seats, heated anything really. Powered tailifts sound good to my mind. A nice big satnav screen, providing the satnav is

actually any use etc etc. So down to you to persuade me away from a V70.

Thanks

Forgot to mention budget is £20K max.

Welcome.  Best test drive a 1.0 TSI DSG Octavia estate.  You might be pleasantly surprised.   Then you have the 1.5 TSI DSG that might suit. 

Decent spec Superb estate with a DSG box would be my thought. I'd go petrol if lots of short journeys.  The 1.5tsi DSG in our Karoq is a pretty impressive unit and I think it'd move a Superb along plenty well enough. There are always the 2.0tsi 190, 220, 272 or 280ps options if you want/need a bit more oomph.

Thanks for the replies guys. Power is not an absolute essential. I would fit a tow bar but only for towing a trailer to the tip.  I did see this one listed at a dealer only a few miles away.

 

https://www.robinsonsmotorgroup.co.uk/skoda/used-cars/13289705-skoda-octavia-estate-se-technology-1.0-tsi-115-ps-6-g-man/

 

This has the 1.0L engine. Must admit would not have considered such a small engine. Also reading the dealers blurb says is a hatchback but looks an estate to me.

That one must be one of the new hatchback estates! 

 

I went from a Superb to an Octavia estate and didn't miss the room.  I'm now in a GTI and occasionally miss the benefits of an estate.

 

Agree with George about trying the smaller engines if power isn't essential.

 

One thing that'll be on my list for next car considerations is tyres.  Our Polo GTI is on 17"s and sometimes feels like it hasn't got suspension, which I've had enough of.  I'll be wanting some tyre wall on my next car.  Comfort over handling.

 

Gaz

I really need to have a sit in/ ride around in both models. I could never do without an estate of some kind. Not needed 99% of the time but when that 1% comes around. Having some air in ones tyres does make a difference. Your Polo would probably

be as comfortable riding around on just the rims.

23 hours ago, Bogart said:

Thanks for the replies guys. Power is not an absolute essential. I would fit a tow bar but only for towing a trailer to the tip.  I did see this one listed at a dealer only a few miles away.

 

https://www.robinsonsmotorgroup.co.uk/skoda/used-cars/13289705-skoda-octavia-estate-se-technology-1.0-tsi-115-ps-6-g-man/

 

This has the 1.0L engine. Must admit would not have considered such a small engine. Also reading the dealers blurb says is a hatchback but looks an estate to me.

Note that the smaller engined Octavia's have torsion beam rear suspension, while the more powerful cars have independent rear suspension.

I'd also weigh up the option of a smaller-engined car against how long you intend to keep it.

This is purely a personal opinion, but I don't think a small engine dragging a big car around will last as long as a larger, less-stressed engine doing the same job.

If you only keep you cars 2-4 years, this won't be a problem. If you keep your cars for the best part of a decade or more, it might become one.

Personally, I would not go for anything smaller than the 1.5TSI, but loads of people are happy with the 1.0TSI.

(You and the Boss having a test drive to see what you think of the 1.0 is obviously the best thing to do.)

 

One advantage of the smaller-engined cars is that they often come on 16" wheels, which are more comfortable than the equivalent 17".

The car you link to is on 16" wheels, so that's a plus for comfort.

Edited 5 August, 20214 yr by EnterName

Regarding wheel size I have always gone with what the car was designed for. Not one meant to have 15in running around on 17in say. I can see your point re small engines. That is why I discounted the 1.0L before reading on here not that bad.

When I see that say a Fiat 500 has 1.0L and 1.2L engines I wonder how a smallish engine  will cope, as you say with a fairly hefty, in comparison, body.

2 hours ago, Bogart said:

Regarding wheel size I have always gone with what the car was designed for. Not one meant to have 15in running around on 17in say. I can see your point re small engines. That is why I discounted the 1.0L before reading on here not that bad.

When I see that say a Fiat 500 has 1.0L and 1.2L engines I wonder how a smallish engine  will cope, as you say with a fairly hefty, in comparison, body.

I think a 150+BHP engine is a good compromise between economy and performance in an Octavia, and between the 2.0 TDI and the 1.5TSI, I'd go for the 1.5 unless I had other specific criteria in mind.

I went to an Octavia from an XC70, affectionately called ‘The Money Pit’.

 

I’ve always loved Volvos, and really liked the XC70 apart from it’s ability to go wrong spectacularly, drain my wallet, and annoy Mrs Cubbington.

 

I chopped it in for a diesel Octavia Vrs 4x4 which was significantly more practical than the XC70 (the Octavia boot is mahoosive and a good shape), and it was one of the best cars I’ve owned, both from a reliability and running cost point of view.

 

Had circumstances been different, I was going to chop the Octavia in and ‘upgrade’ to a Superb Sportline 4x4 diesel this year, but a company car option changed that…you’ll see from my signature I went for another VAG group wagon after testing that, a Cupra Formentor (fell in love with it, but the boot was way too small!), and a V60, which I was really underwhelmed with…

 

Try both, I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

 

Nick

 

 

Edited 6 August, 20214 yr by Cubbington

Intend to do some serious looking beginning of next week.

Another question. Have been comparing 1.4 engine estates and am confused re mileages quoted all are the 1.4TSI

 

a 65 plate says 46.3 mpg 

 

16 plate says 45.6 urban 

 

67 plate says 41.5 mpg  all urban figures.

 

Are they not all the identical engine, all seem to be 148BHP

 

Why do I post things without asking all I need. I need SatNav  but am confused as to what is what. I believe that the Amundsen setup has SatNav but something can be added to others that do not, correct?

I am at a loss when I see stuff like is fitted with Apple Play and Android equivalent. I have an android phone on a cheap PAYG arrangement can I use this or do I need to have lots of data for navigation.

As you can see I have no idea how a phone system can get me from A to B.

2 hours ago, Bogart said:

Why do I post things without asking all I need. I need SatNav  but am confused as to what is what. I believe that the Amundsen setup has SatNav but something can be added to others that do not, correct?

No, both Amundsen and Columbus have navigation only Bolero is without sat nav.

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I am at a loss when I see stuff like is fitted with Apple Play and Android equivalent. I have an android phone on a cheap PAYG arrangement can I use this or do I need to have lots of data for navigation.

As you can see I have no idea how a phone system can get me from A to B.

If you get a car with a MIB2 Amundsen or Columbus (i.e. late 2016 onwards) then they will have Apple Carplay and Android Auto.

 

Both iPhones and Android phones have sat nav apps preloaded (Apple maps and Google maps) - using either of these apps while the phone is connected to the car infotainment system (using CarPlay or Android Auto) allows you to see the sat nav apps on the car system.

 

Even though I have an iPhone I use Google maps because that allows you to download maps onto the phone while on WiFi so you don't need to download the maps using your PAYG account. The only PAYG account usage is for traffic data which is MUCH less.

@Bogart Maybe all the same 1.4 TSI Euro 6 with 150ps but what about the wheel (tyre) size for each you are looking at.

Matters not really as the cars got that Urban Fuel Consumption inside a building on a rolling road and that will not be how you drive places.

Thanks again for the replies. According to my girls I drive like an old fart so should get 100mpg.

Just keeping my eye in as to what is out there.

Here are a couple of options opinions appreciated.

 

https://www.motors.co.uk/car-60540237/?i=4&m=srs

 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107235348052?onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&make=SKODA&model=OCTAVIA&advertising-location=at_cars&maximum-mileage=100000&year-from=2018&sort=relevance&include-delivery-option=on&postcode=nr148jb&body-type=Estate&year-to=2018&radius=50&fuel-type=Petrol&page=2

 

Now in my ignorance the 1st car seems a good price whereas I think the second is a bit overpriced.

12 minutes ago, Bogart said:

Just keeping my eye in as to what is out there.

Here are a couple of options opinions appreciated.

 

https://www.motors.co.uk/car-60540237/?i=4&m=srs

 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107235348052?onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&make=SKODA&model=OCTAVIA&advertising-location=at_cars&maximum-mileage=100000&year-from=2018&sort=relevance&include-delivery-option=on&postcode=nr148jb&body-type=Estate&year-to=2018&radius=50&fuel-type=Petrol&page=2

 

Now in my ignorance the 1st car seems a good price whereas I think the second is a bit overpriced.

There’s a massive difference in mileage between these two.

 

This vRS from your search is at the top end of your budget but … VRS Octavias are great! 

A high mileage 1.4 TSI with a DQ200 DSG   (After 1st service the Variable / Flexible Services at a Main Dealer were 3,000 miles over each time.)

vs

a very very low mileage 1.4TSI Manual.   (I wonder if it was being serviced every 1,000 miles / 52 weeks, and what was done?)

 

Both are just 'Asking Prices' and there is a bum for every seat.     Both want to get them sold but one dealer might be more desperate than the other.

Edited 7 August, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

3 minutes ago, Pilotguy said:

There’s a massive difference in mileage between these two.

 

This vRS from your search is at the top end of your budget but … VRS Octavias are great! 

Yes there is a lot of mileage difference but also a big price difference.

Do you want a car with 2 pedals or one with 3?

 

I love DQ200 DSG's but would not be buying one that i could not have a Skoda Warranty on.   Like the one linked.

I prefer 2 to 3.  Is there something wrong with the DQ200 at that mileage then?

@Bogart  There should not be, but then it is a VW DQ200 DSG, so if it needs Clutches that will be £1,100 or so, if a MCU about £1,700. 

If just a Accumulator Kit much less.

 

But the car has not been serviced to the Manufacturers Recommendations / Guidelines so 3,000 miles over each for services, and even though the DQ200 DSG does not get serviced and they would sell you a Warranty that they might say at 100,000 miles & over when it gets there it was invalid or because of the Service Record at a Main Dealers.

 

Maybe best a lower mileage DSG if getting a DQ200 7 speed twin dry clutch DSG.  Or one with a Warranty that covers a failure. 

Or a car with a Wet Clutch DSG that has been serviced each 40,000 miles.  But that would be a 2 litre TSI if you were not getting a 2 litre TDI.

Need time to digest these figures. Thanks.