So guys, if i want a daily driver with at least equivalent to current mk7.5 golf sport suspension.

I've got an 1.5 e-tec Style ordered, but still not sure if i should change options.

 

How does DCC stiff setting compare to the optional Sport suspension? Anyone could say how does it differ from golf's equivalent?

Are the vRS stock dampers same as optional sport dampers?

 

Driving modes seem to go back to normal when you start the car. Is this true? That makes DCC quite annoying to use since i'd have to always change my profile when starting the car.

I can confirm driving mode goes to normal every time you start the car. Have no idea about the suspension though. All I can say is I would wish a bit firmer ride in Sport mode.

2 minutes ago, TheUltraRunner said:

I can confirm driving mode goes to normal every time you start the car. Have no idea about the suspension though. All I can say is I would wish a bit firmer ride in Sport mode.

Even the invidual one? I heard that mk8 golf keeps invidual but not others.

So you have the DCC and you think Sport mode is not stiff enough?

Doesn't matter in which mode you turn off the car. It always defaults to Normal. Even if you turn off the car in individual mode.

Yes, I have the DCC. What I was trying to say is it could be a bit more stiff in sport mode when driving in the mountains on a perfect road (or on a track, which I didn't do yet). But for majority of my driving in sport mode, the stiffness is just a very good balance between sportiness and comfort. Considering most of our B roads and mountain roads are quite bad.

7 minutes ago, TheUltraRunner said:

Doesn't matter in which mode you turn off the car. It always defaults to Normal. Even if you turn off the car in individual mode.

Yes, I have the DCC. What I was trying to say is it could be a bit more stiff in sport mode when driving in the mountains on a perfect road (or on a track, which I didn't do yet). But for majority of my driving in sport mode, the stiffness is just a very good balance between sportiness and comfort. Considering most of our B roads and mountain roads are quite bad.

 

Yeah, i guess i'd be using it always on Sport. But now i'm thinking that how does it compare to the optional sport suspensions which i'm getting. On Golf its okay, but could be stiffer. The always-back-to-normal is really annoying, so i think that if DCC isn't much stiffer, then there's no point on getting the DCC since would rarely use other than sport.

I would assume that sport suspension in a normal Octavia isn't the same as the hardest setting in a VRS Octavia with DCC. Maybe it should be compared to the DCC hardness in Normal mode.

10 hours ago, TheUltraRunner said:

I would assume that sport suspension in a normal Octavia isn't the same as the hardest setting in a VRS Octavia with DCC. Maybe it should be compared to the DCC hardness in Normal mode.

I'd rather not have assumptions. If someone has experience i'd like to hear. 

 

I believe the normal from DCC is not nearly as stiff as sport suspension.

I can give you my experience from O3 RS, DCC and  no DCC. 

 

DCC in normal is more-less like non-DCC suspension. Sport is stiffer, comfort is softer.

 

In my car setting stays until next ignition, it changes only when you change it.

 

Go for DCC and never look back.

 

Edited 17 August, 20214 yr by nidza

2 minutes ago, nidza said:

I can give you my experience from O3 RS, DCC and  no DCC. 

 

DCC in normal is more-less like non-DCC suspension. Sport is stiffer, comfort is softer.

 

In my car setting stays until next ignition, it changes only when you change it.

 

Go for DCC and never look back.

 

 

Err what?

 

DCC normal is like a normal suspension, got it, but the quesion was how does DCC sport mode compare to the optional Sport suspension.

 

YOu know you basically game me no information, since you're running mk3 which does keeps settings until next ignition. O4 apparently does not.

I think your expectation is a little too high since you are seeking for very exact comparison. Which can btw be very subjective. 

 

You are looking for someone who had a non VRS Octi with optional sport suspension without DCC and who also had a non VRS Octi without optional sport suspension and with the DCC? Am I right?

 

We are just trying to help you here with giving as much opinions as possible. But it looks like you don't like that. 

When I ordered mine last year sport suspension wasn’t even an option (on the SE-Tech). 

If you want an exact comparison get on the phone to dealers and find two for comparison.

18 minutes ago, TheUltraRunner said:

I think your expectation is a little too high since you are seeking for very exact comparison. Which can btw be very subjective. 

 

You are looking for someone who had a non VRS Octi with optional sport suspension without DCC and who also had a non VRS Octi without optional sport suspension and with the DCC? Am I right?

 

We are just trying to help you here with giving as much opinions as possible. But it looks like you don't like that. 

 

Well nidza was more like telling me what the DCC does, not how it differs from anything. Also the driving profile he has, is from O3, which does not relate to O4.

Perhaps ja question to @nidza. How does the DCC sport compare to Sport suspension?

 

I would try it out on the dealer, but they have nothing with the optional sport suspension. They have vRS but no one seems to know is the vRS stock dampers same as the optional Sport suspension.

 

 

i do appreciate all the answers, but i'm getting frustrated since its really hard to get this information. Current order is with optional sport suspension. Would like to know if that is the same as stock suspension/dampers on vRS.

Bonus question is, how does the DCC sport compare to optional sport suspension.

40 minutes ago, timster said:

 

Err what?

 

DCC normal is like a normal suspension, got it, but the quesion was how does DCC sport mode compare to the optional Sport suspension.

 

YOu know you basically game me no information, since you're running mk3 which does keeps settings until next ignition. O4 apparently does not.

 

Allright, obviously you haven't really do any research prior asking question. I will try to be of assistance, based on Octavia 3 RS, petrol version. 

 

DCC is a dynamic gadget, it always adjusts all 4 shock absorbers, based on input ECU gets from various sensors car has. In other words, continuously improving behavior of the vehicle (in comparison to classical, static suspension). This is important to know to understand the difference even if the mode where stiffness is similar to static setup. Over the top, you have 3 levels of stiffness.

 

Now, let's compare, you have 3 DCC settings. 

1) SPORT -> stiffer then non-DCC

2) NORMAL -> similar to non-DCC, but always better, because of its dynamic nature

3) COMFORT -> softer to non-DCC

 

Ride height seems similar, if there is, it's too little - maybe you can find some exact data on the internet.

 

I hope now you have information you need for your decision? O4 and O3 are mechanically almost identical, therefore cannot be much difference, except little things like not remembering setting on next ignition - could be related to DSG. Mine is manual, so no need to protect DSG with reverting to normal.

19 minutes ago, nidza said:

 

Allright, obviously you haven't really do any research prior asking question. I will try to be of assistance, based on Octavia 3 RS, petrol version. 

 

DCC is a dynamic gadget, it always adjusts all 4 shock absorbers, based on input ECU gets from various sensors car has. In other words, continuously improving behavior of the vehicle (in comparison to classical, static suspension). This is important to know to understand the difference even if the mode where stiffness is similar to static setup. Over the top, you have 3 levels of stiffness.

 

Now, let's compare, you have 3 DCC settings. 

1) SPORT -> stiffer then non-DCC

2) NORMAL -> similar to non-DCC, but always better, because of its dynamic nature

3) COMFORT -> softer to non-DCC

 

Ride height seems similar, if there is, it's too little - maybe you can find some exact data on the internet.

 

I hope now you have information you need for your decision? O4 and O3 are mechanically almost identical, therefore cannot be much difference, except little things like not remembering setting on next ignition - could be related to DSG. Mine is manual, so no need to protect DSG with reverting to normal.

I do know that the DCC is more than just static stiffness selection  

My problem is that i dont know which one is best if i'd prefer stiffest option for daily driving, since i like to always kinda feel the road. Also what bothers me is that i'd have to ALWAYS select invidual when starting the car, since it seems to go back to normal on O4.

 

1) By non-DCC, do you mean sport suspension or just the regular stock suspension?

 

1 hour ago, nidza said:

DCC in normal is more-less like non-DCC suspension. Sport is stiffer, comfort is softer.

Ah, i didnt know  "Sport is stiffer" ment its stiffer than non-DCC. My bad.

 

 

edit: DCC should be -10mm and sport suspension -15mm. Not sure if noticeable.

Edited 17 August, 20214 yr by timster

11 minutes ago, timster said:

My problem is that i dont know which one is best if i'd prefer stiffest option for daily driving, since i like to always kinda feel the road. Also what bothers me is that i'd have to ALWAYS select invidual when starting the car, since it seems to go back to normal on O4.

 

Well man, maybe you should look to some more expensive car for this, like BMW M3 or something? But, when you put your feet on the ground, O4 with DCC is really something you will enjoy. Why don't you go to RS?

 

12 minutes ago, timster said:

1) By non-DCC, do you mean sport suspension or just the regular stock suspension?

 

RS only has a sport suspension, either with DCC or not. 

 

1 minute ago, nidza said:

 

Well man, maybe you should look to some more expensive car for this, like BMW M3 or something? But, when you put your feet on the ground, O4 with DCC is really something you will enjoy. Why don't you go to RS?

 

 

RS only has a sport suspension, either with DCC or not. 

 

Nah, have to go with what i can. I mean i dont need a race car. Just want to make sure the octavia comes with the most suitable suspension for me. Unfortenately the RS is too expensive to get and keep (6k€ more)  At the moment i've got Style with dynamic-packet ordered. Dynamic packet has sport suspension included.

 

Yeah, i know the RS only has sport suspension or optionally DCC. Which i'm curious is, how does the RS stock sport suspension compare to the optional sport suspension for Style e-tec. Is it the same sport suspension on both?

Either way, DCC will be a severe upgrade on your car. Today you will feel to press sport button and enjoy the road, tomorrow you may want comfort car for a long ride to St. Peterburg on their ****ty roads, but all the way car will be less prone to roll on quick direction change and will have better braking performance as it adjusts all the time for optimal traction.

 

Hmm.. the less prone to roll definately does sound intriguing.

 

I wish there would be some documentation/videos on how does it really work on different situations and how does it work.

 

I believe i'd be using it as Sport most of the time, but i'm really annoyed that i need two presses to activate it every time i start the car.

You can still change the springs for stiffer aftermarket ones if needed.

1 hour ago, TheUltraRunner said:

You can still change the springs for stiffer aftermarket ones if needed.

 

Not if you like keeping your warranty, you can't.

19 minutes ago, GiantKiwi said:

 

Not if you like keeping your warranty, you can't.

My thoughts exactly.

You can't have everything. 

2 hours ago, TheUltraRunner said:

You can't have everything. 

Thats why i want to make sure i get the best i can have :p

 

52 minutes ago, timster said:

Thats why i want to make sure i get the best i can have :p

 

 I totally agree with you on this one.

When I was test driving them, I got to test a vRS estate (wagon/combi/etc) with DCC back to back with the vRS hatch without DCC. I couldn't notice enough of a difference between them to justify the extra £3000 for a higher mileage ex-demo car where the only advantages were DCC + 40L extra boot space. Specifications were identical apart from the DCC and body type.

 

Not sure if it was this thread or not, but the ride height between DCC and non DCC on vRS is identical on non-hybrid versions, as DCC is just variable damper control, and has nothing to do with the springs.