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The Kodiaq has headlamp washer hidden behind a flap.

 

My offside front headlight washer 'flap' is missing, is this an easy pop back on spare, or does it need additional work ?

On the mk 2 Octavia the flaps were just clipped onto the end of the washer spray arm, which was extended by water pressure.  It was therefore a case of activating the headlight washers, grabbing the spray arm while it was out and holding it out whilst clipping the cover back on.

 

I'd imagine the Kodiaq is similar.

Slight side issue.  I hadn't realised my car had this.  It does work but only when the lights are on.

 

As I normally have them set to  "auto" it never comes on!

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6 minutes ago, skomaz said:

On the mk 2 Octavia the flaps were just clipped onto the end of the washer spray arm, which was extended by water pressure.  It was therefore a case of activating the headlight washers, grabbing the spray arm while it was out and holding it out whilst clipping the cover back on.

 

I'd imagine the Kodiaq is similar.

That sort of looks how it should work ...... getting colour matched flap will be the issue ... I'll call dealer

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£32 for the part and £55  to have it painted  .... Arrrgh    plus fitting charge on top. (unless it will just clip-on)

20 minutes ago, xspartx said:

Slight side issue.  I hadn't realised my car had this.  It does work but only when the lights are on.

 

As I normally have them set to  "auto" it never comes on!

I have my lights always set to “auto” - and the headlight washers work just fine. (Note that they work when you use the screen washers, but not every time - see handbook.)

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Thanks for link ... but when you add shipping cost is the same.

Maybe I'll wait for part and collet it and spray myself

3 hours ago, Sargan said:

…and spray myself


 

If you pay attention to the little arrow on the top of the can’s nozzle you should be okay.

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I've just noticed my cover is missing - it was defo there yesterday. I did use the windsceen wash on the way home last night so assume it came off then. I've found part no. had a check on internet, and when you include postage, the cover from Skoda-parts or anywhere non uk at least Euro40 !  That's for a primed cover only, you'll have to add painting costs to that.

 

Anything I can find on auction sites are damaged so then would have to add repair costs. Seems dealer is the only option.

 

Tad confused how the thing came off tho - seemed OK whenever I cleaned the car so assume it had to be fixed correctly. Is this a common fault?  If it is I haven't heard of it before.

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Bought the expensive piece of plastic .. painted it, went to fit…. And found plastic clip on the extending washer arms was broken.

as this is a removable jet … wanted new jet ….  No you have to buy the whole assembly …. Expensive waste.

Having bought new assembly I just swapped over the removable jet, then clipped on the new plastic trim.

Do these actually do anything?

 

There is no "wiper" so it just sprays a bit of water on the headlamps?

 

Waste of time imo.

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Spray high pressure fan of water …. Does wash crud off.

Would I have bought this as extra .. no

5 hours ago, Sargan said:

Bought the expensive piece of plastic .. painted it, went to fit…. And found plastic clip on the extending washer arms was broken.

 

That was my first thought but nothing looks like it's sheered. I've see a youtube video for a Golf Mk7 washer and the cover looks to be more securely locked on the wash mechanism, but the Kodiaq just looks like a thin plastic hook-type arrangement over a plastic stud.

 

What I can't understand is if I was travelling between 60-70mph at the time when it was used, even if it was loose, air resistance should have been enough to hold it in place. I suspect the replacement is going to be nearer £50 than the 50p it's actually worth.

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It’s just 2 small plastic hooks not very strong.

Breakers wanting £19 + del for part with scratches so by the time that's repaired and painted...  And 37EU to have the part shipped from Skoda Parts then £33 from local dealership it had to be.

 

£7.50 for paint aerosol from Halfords? Err I don't think so.

£28 for aerosol repair kit from paints 4u ( primer, colour, clear coat ) or

36Eu to have Skoda aerosol ( colour + clear ) delivered. Or

£35+vat to have it sprayed at a local body shop? No brainer

 

So, £75 for washer cover  :crying:.   Note to self - when next using windscreen washer, make sure light switch is turned to OFF position.

 

 

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Local dealer wanted £55 +vat to spray.

I bought a 2 can spray set (paint & clear coat) from Skoda ~was around £18

probably superglue mine when I get the car :)

On 30/11/2021 at 09:58, xspartx said:

probably superglue mine when I get the car :)

 

The thought had crossed my mind but unless it's another piece of German over-engineering then looking at how it mounts on the piston, I reckon there's a need for the cover to move.

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Don't see superglue being any help, unless you remove the headlamp washer and glue the cover plate permanently into position.

The cover flap needs to be able to rotate on its hinge (where is attached to head of washer jet)

 

Glue rigid ... won't seat back on nicely (at least my thoughts

The cover flap is hheld back under tension .. and as it can rotate on hinge it self locates for good fit.

 

 

I do think its ridciulaous that the simple plastic end pices ... of washer (which had jets and hinge pin) is not available as a part ..... the whole large telescoping piston assenbly is not needed ... just the clip on tip.

 

1 hour ago, Sargan said:

Don't see superglue being any help, unless you remove the headlamp washer and glue the cover plate permanently into position.

The cover flap needs to be able to rotate on its hinge (where is attached to head of washer jet)

 

Glue rigid ... won't seat back on nicely (at least my thoughts

The cover flap is hheld back under tension .. and as it can rotate on hinge it self locates for good fit.

 

 

I do think its ridciulaous that the simple plastic end pices ... of washer (which had jets and hinge pin) is not available as a part ..... the whole large telescoping piston assenbly is not needed ... just the clip on tip.

 

 

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I'm not saying that's what happened here, but on previous Skoda's most of the damage caused to these jets and caps is due to them trying to operate when frozen. It doesn't take much moisture to find its way between the cap and the bumper and freeze pretty firmly during a hard overnight frost.

 

The passing air whilst driving will keep it frozen whilst most of the rest of the car defrosts. A wash of the windscreen results in a portion of highly pressurised water with no where to go which might be enough to crack or loosen the clips.

 

The ice melts (or the next operation of the washer jets) and the cap is free to find it's new home on the grass verge.

 

Early Kodiaq's also suffered with misaligned washer jets. They weren't retracting properly and ended up being left partially extended. Some owners tried to force them closed and broke them, they also broke themselves when their return to the bumper was impeded.

6 hours ago, silver1011 said:

I'm not saying that's what happened here, but on previous Skoda's most of the damage caused to these jets and caps is due to them trying to operate when frozen. It doesn't take much moisture to find its way between the cap and the bumper and freeze pretty firmly during a hard overnight frost.

 

The passing air whilst driving will keep it frozen whilst most of the rest of the car defrosts. A wash of the windscreen results in a portion of highly pressurised water with no where to go which might be enough to crack or loosen the clips.

 

The ice melts (or the next operation of the washer jets) and the cap is free to find it's new home on the grass verge.

 

Early Kodiaq's also suffered with misaligned washer jets. They weren't retracting properly and ended up being left partially extended. Some owners tried to force them closed and broke them, they also broke themselves when their return to the bumper was impeded.

 

Been there, seen it, done it. Had it on my old Octavia where I woke up one cold morning to find the piston fully out. The dealer checked the washer fluid concentrate which wasn't enough for winter therefore the water froze etc.  So know all about freezing issues.

 

But nowhere near freezing when it happened. Even if it had been, car was just serviced a few weeks earlier and they gave me the remainer ( almost a full bottle ) of the washer fluid concentrate they use. Was quite impressed when I saw the official VW washer fluid is rated -70c. I'd suggest at that temp their flimsy plastic hinges would break first.

 

On 01/12/2021 at 12:31, Sargan said:

I do think its ridciulaous that the simple plastic end pices ... of washer (which had jets and hinge pin) is not available as a part ..... the whole large telescoping piston assenbly is not needed ... just the clip on tip.

 

There's a slight update on my issue. Despite the dealership checking for damage and saying it;s only the cap, when I went to fit it found there's nothing to secure it to. So I'm in exactly the same position as you Saragen, it needs a full new piston. And I agree with you, such a poor piece of design.

 

Have you any idea how your hinges broke?

 

Any hints or tips re: fitting greatly appreciated. I'm still awaiting a phone call but at first glance I'd assumed it was a bumper off job?

 

I'm just so confused as to how this could happen? Both covers were defo in place when I walked up to the car, a few miles after driving I exit the roundabout where the low winter sun highlighted the grime on the windscreen making it hard to see, I use the washer to clear the windscreen ( I'm assuming headlight washers came on at same time ), I arrive home and then find one of the caps is missing?

 

I took the car back to the dealership, I strongly suggested the piston was faulty ( car only done 4000 miles ), they refuse to submit a warranty claim, I ask how else could this have happened and their theory? In the second or so the washer was active, something hit it. Well that something must have been made out of sponge because there's not a mark on the paintwork. There's more chance of winning the lottery than that happening. I'm then told that if it had been faulty from manufacture, as the car is 12mth old. it would have already failed.  Eh?  So why a 3yr warrranty? if a part fails, it only fails in the first 12mth? I obviously look gullable.  He athen said that it's just like any other part of your car which can suffer damage. Again what's all that about? It's not like any other part, the piston it's protected behind the bumper, There isn't even any place for a stone or anything to be thrown up behind the bumper and damage it - it sits in it's own protective tube. As I see it there are only two possible causes - a faulty piston or misuse by someone trying to prise on/off the cover. As I say the car was only serviced a few weeks before but I very much doubt anyone had reason to go near it. It's a mystery to me.

 

 

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I bought a new cover plate, and paint kit.

Sprayed it up.

Bought the washer unit  (unhappily).  With a small screwdriver I unclipped the jet assembly off end (held on by ridges) 

 

Pulled the telescoping tube forward, then removed the damaged jet assembly, swapped this out for broken one on the car and clipped on new cover plate … couple of minutes job at most.

no adjustment as it is a floating type fitting.

Many thanks. I was under the impression the whole jet assembly needed replacing - sounds easy enough.

 

Have you any idea how your hinges broke in the first place?

 

 

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