Hi All,

 

Many be a stupid question, but I’ve had the oil low warning light appear on my 2.0 PD BKD engine (no DPF) so I checked dipstick and oil was indeed low. (Must be the worst dipstick I’ve ever seen to read). I've topped up by 0.5l of correct oil as the manual states but for all I can tell the dipstick now appears to be above the max limit. 

 

Does anyone know the difference between min and max on a bkd (no dpf) and if I should be worried that 0.5l could take it from min to max. There is every chance I’m just reading the dipstick wrong as it's a very poor design.

 

Thanks.

1 hour ago, Haol said:

Hi All,

 

Many be a stupid question, but I’ve had the oil low warning light appear on my 2.0 PD BKD engine (no DPF) so I checked dipstick and oil was indeed low. (Must be the worst dipstick I’ve ever seen to read). I've topped up by 0.5l of correct oil as the manual states but for all I can tell the dipstick now appears to be above the max limit. 

 

Does anyone know the difference between min and max on a bkd (no dpf) and if I should be worried that 0.5l could take it from min to max. There is every chance I’m just reading the dipstick wrong as it's a very poor design.

 

Thanks.

 

What do you mean the worst dipstick design? Are you telling me you can't read black oil, on black plastic?! I've found it wonderful for questioning myself as to whether the oil level is correct or not... like i've got dipstick ocd! They must have finalised that design decision at an office party whilst out of their heads on alcohol I swear!

 

Is the car parked on a flat surface now? If so take another dip, or two, or ten and see where it sits. If you're concerned take a photo and attach it here. I can't remember the min and max but I'm fairly certain it's not less than 0.5l 

i) In general, German cars have 1 litre between min and max (and Germans don't bother topping up until the oil hits the low level, when they pour in all of the 1.0 litre of oil that they keep for this purpose). I'm not saying that this is a desirable way of going forward, just that its the way it is done in that culture. (And you can see a trace of this in the manual where they talk about topping the oil up once. This isn't totally meaningful if you don't know what volume that is...not that anyone takes much notice of  that )

 

ii) With the dipstick (and I agree with you), you could try rolling it on to, eg, kitchen towel. If you are  careful you can get a good idea of the oil level that way, although it is a bit stupid and not the most accurate thing in the world; Hey, design a part with really one function! Oh yes, everything works perfectly apart from reading the oil level, which is the one function the part was designed for. Ok, OK, I'll take that back, it was also designed to fit it a hole, but that shouldn't have tested the designers all that much.

 

iii) Again, in general, you are, these days, you are warned not to over-fill the engine with oil. This is because, if you overfill the oil, there can be excess oil consumption, as the oil is burned off or goes through the breather system. This 'excess oil in the exhaust' can cause damage to catalytic converters and DPFs. Don't have those? Then it is less of a problem, unless you grossly overfill the engine, and the crank is splashing through it, worsening fuel consumption.

However you read it on the flat do it when stone cold,  then do it as it needs read to see if enough oil, which is once at operating temp so that is near to 90*oC indicated and a few minutes after the engine is stopped.

VW / Skoda do not say what a few minutes is, but 4 or 5 is a few, 10 is not.

 

 

You will see that this Skoda instruction tells you 1.2 44kW engines checked cold, others 'warm', well the VW, Seat & Audi manuals said 'Hot' or Normal Operating temp, in English or US English.

The CZ Company do often have an issue as VW do with translation from German to Czech to Spanish, English and imagine to Chinese then back again.

Edited 26 September, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

What is the logic of not filling to the higher "a" range if the engine is operated at high loads, towing etc?

 

Well they actually say "not above this" this presumably being the range B or are they saying that you can drive up a high mountain pass but not above it!

Edited 26 September, 20214 yr by J.R.

Another wee thing.

 

I do not actually know when VW / Skoda introduced that when you get a Low Oil Level or Low Oil Pressure Light  or Message, that if you open the bonnet yet do nothing like check or top up the oil the Warning Light or Message goes out / off and might stay off for 100 km.  

 

Many people put in 0.5 litres of oil and think good the light is out.    I know that a 1.4 TSI / TFSI 132-136 kW Twincharger with only an official 3.6 litre oil capacity can be 1.3 litres low before a Low Oil Warning light shows. 

If driving hard the Low Oil Pressure light or massage might show.  Open the Bonnet and close it and no light for another 60 miles.   Simply CRAZY Germans.