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Extending Superb iV's electric range

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I'm super happy with my Superb. The only thing I don't like about it is that is still has the ICE within :)

 

So I'm looking on how I could at least extend electric range if not fully converting it to BEV.

 

Would it be a huge pain adding another battery? Would the electronics complain when it saw increased amperage from a second battery pack?

 

Has anyone attempted this? Any advice, except "wait for the proper BEV Superb"? :D :D

@velis

Welcome to the forum.

I will flag your post to a mod and they can move this to the Mk3 Superb section where you might get advice. 

 

Personally i think that the modification is not viable and changing the car for a EV is the thing to do.

Manufacturers have not achieved building Plug In Hybrids with decent range on Electricity as far as i have seen.

The best are ones that have Generator engines that power batteries and do not drive the wheels directly.

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As above. At this stage in the models life they are too young to really be considering such mods. Maybe when they are 10+ years old and in a position to replace the main battery anyway. It's definitely something I'll be looking into down the line.

By then there should be battery upgrade packs. Maybe removing the ice and swapping in some cells is an idea. Issues would be slow charging for a bigger pack and weight distribution. Also minimal range for a potential large mod cost. At that time you be looking at 200+mile range for cheap EVs.

The now Long Range version of the MG5 Estate might not be a Skoda Superb but the well under £30,000 price in the UK and real world 200 miles plus range with people or animals and stuff in the car make it a BEV bargain IMO. Not a bad interior in then at a price comparison with ICE estates of the same size. 

i dont know much about the iv, but from what i've read, if you use the sport mode, does it not run on battery and engine and does this not extend the range of the battery ?

if you only get 20 or so miles running on battery only, does the battery not last longer when it's getting some help from the engine, plus you get the benefit of extra power

 

If you drive a golf R it saves the battery even more. No point having a phev if you are just going to run it on engine the whole time.

2 hours ago, MarkyG82 said:

If you drive a golf R it saves the battery even more. No point having a phev if you are just going to run it on engine the whole time.

theres no real saving with a phev that only does 20 mile per charge,even if you only do short trips, you have the cost of the electricity to charge, plus the car costs more to buy than a ice, so you have to break even first before theres any gain.  

you might as well put the car into sport mode and have some fun  😀

if you use sport mode, surely though there must be a difference in  battery range against battery only mode, so you've gained something

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@310golfr

This line of reasoning is SO not aligned with mine that I don't even know where to start explaining. You are right about one thing, though: engaging sport mode DOES increase performance and the fun. But not by saving battery :)


I'd much prefer to keep my Superb as it's by far the best car I ever had. But if I can't make it run 95%+ on electricity, it's all moot. I also read that 2023 Superb is still going to be ICE / PHEV only, so no luck in waiting.

I love the electricity part too much. I'm going to take a look at i4 (today) and Q4 (tomorrow), see which one pushes my buttons ;)

 

 

On 14/10/2021 at 08:59, velis said:

I'm super happy with my Superb. The only thing I don't like about it is that is still has the ICE within :)

 

So I'm looking on how I could at least extend electric range if not fully converting it to BEV.

 

Would it be a huge pain adding another battery? Would the electronics complain when it saw increased amperage from a second battery pack?

 

Has anyone attempted this? Any advice, except "wait for the proper BEV Superb"? :D :D

I guess the easy answer is buy an Enyaq? 

 

Adding batteries is a no go due to payload, packaging etc. Even if you manage to do it, you lose the advantages of having a PHEV superb...

7 hours ago, 310golfr said:

theres no real saving with a phev that only does 20 mile per charge,even if you only do short trips, you have the cost of the electricity to charge, plus the car costs more to buy than a ice, so you have to break even first before theres any gain.  

you might as well put the car into sport mode and have some fun  😀

if you use sport mode, surely though there must be a difference in  battery range against battery only mode, so you've gained something

There is a saving if nearly all your journeys are sub 20miles. Then you have a big car for shifting stuff about and an engine for when you go on holiday to Scotland.

Running it in sport mode just to gain a few more miles from the battery (while having fun) is not what this type of car is for. If you want to keep burning dinosaurs get a car that doesn't run on electricity.

PHEV comes in handy in 2 main situations.

 

- Short journeys under 20 miles being done on full electric

- Longer journeys with a lot of start/stop traffic or steady cruising.

 

at the point of stop/start traffic the most fuel is used because the engine has to not only idle but produce a lot of torque to get the car it’s initial movement. Taking this over with a high torque motor means the engine doesn’t have to idle at all and doesn’t need to be started till the bulk of the heavy lifting is done.

 

the second point of steady cruising, if you’re sitting at 70mph at 2000rpm the engine is producing next to no torque and it’s just keeping things ticking over, no extra power demand but also no cylinder cut off as that is needed to keep it moving. In this case the motor can take over the 2000rpm movement (no sweat for a motor at all) and the engine is switched off. When power is demanded the engine can fire back up, when speed is reduced the car regen brakes. 
 

 

so if you want it as a all electric car then it’s not for you. Hybrid vehicles have a set criteria to get the most efficient use out of them.  

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@Škoda:

 

Could you please consider making the 2023 Superb BEV only? It's moot anyway trying to prolong the ICE agony... :D :D

That's a lovely idea but never going to happen. Skoda don't do things that the others in the VAG arena haven't or aren't doing. VW didn't do a mk8 e-golf so we won't be getting a bev Octavia or superb.

 

Maybe VW can think of using the extra boot space of the larger vehicles to add battery capacity to the plug ins. Bring the real world range to 50 miles and they would sell a ton!

Faster charging would make me happy. With the 45 minutes time restrictions on public chargers it makes public charging pointless. 

Plenty slow chargers in the UK are not limited to 45 minutes.  Park and rides are getting lots of the. A example being Stirling where there are over 60 yet only 4 Rapid chargers.   It will be a location location location thing for years to come though. 

 

  Edit. Sorry I see now that you are not in the UK. 

 

 

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