There are EV drivers that could not care less about overstay charged be that £10 or 30 or £1 a minute they just charge until they are returning or maybe u till full. This has 29 % to go and is already 15 minutes over max charging time.    50 kW charger. 

10 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

There are EV drivers that could not care less about overstay charged be that £10 or 30 or £1 a minute they just charge until they are returning or maybe u till full. This has 29 % to go and is already 15 minutes over max charging time.    50 kW charger. 

I guess that they are so loaded that they don't give F**k or they are still in ICE mode and want a full tank?

They sited three charging points along the road from us about a year ago and more often than not they were occupied by EVs that were simply using them as parking spaces, although the council have recently changed the signage to say they can only park when charging, not all day.

27 minutes ago, BTandSid said:

They sited three charging points along the road from us about a year ago and more often than not they were occupied by EVs that were simply using them as parking spaces, although the council have recently changed the signage to say they can only park when charging, not all day.

Thats going to be interesting in the future as more street chargers get installed, I mean parking anywhere these days is hard enough what with many car parks being sold off for house building, so where do people park when the streets are also under attack with chargers?

I think this video is interesting the Cybertruck already has quality issues??

 

 

1 minute ago, Graham Butcher said:

I think this video is interesting the Cybertruck already has quality issues??

 

 

will be all sorted once they move production to China ;o)

11 hours ago, lol-lol said:

 

 

 

Such is life.  I imagine this cars are semi-automatic like my hybrids ie have a gearbox with a bunch of fixed ratios but an auto changing gear changing system which works in combo with the electric assist and sometime solo EV mode.  

 

 

How the mitsubishi outlander works

 

 

On 29/04/2024 at 08:44, wyx087 said:

https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/daily-mail-admits-making-up-story-about-electric-vehicles-causing-potholes/

 

 

Surprise, surprise, public opinion is being manipulated.

 

 

Not sure the author of that article is any less biased than the Mail Online, but just waaaaay over on a different side of the argument.

https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/profile/pallavi-sethi/

22 minutes ago, EnterName said:

Not sure the author of that article is any less biased than the Mail Online, but just waaaaay over on a different side of the argument.

https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/profile/pallavi-sethi/

Always good to double check motive behind sources.

 

But I honestly don't see any bias from someone whose job is to analyse and combat mis-information:

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Pallavi is a Policy Fellow (Climate Change Misinformation) at the Grantham Research Institute. She leads research on climate change misinformation in the UK and analyses its causes, impacts, and countermeasures.

 

Why is the act of identifying and pointing out clear wrong facts and mis-information considered biased?

When have publishing wrong facts and deliberately write mis-information come to be considered a valid side of argument?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405069428886?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Electric&make=&fromsra

 

2013 Leaf 24 kWh, 180k miles on the clock, 11 years old.

Averaged 45 miles every single of those 365 days 11 years. 

 

Although "EXHAUST AND MECHANICS ALL IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. No Funny Noises. Smooth Gear Change." not sure the seller has tailored their sales patter for the EV market. 

 

It will still work well for many people, my family included, as second car local runabouts. Oh yes, that's why we got one 😁 

14 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

I think this video is interesting the Cybertruck already has quality issues??

 

Tesla well know for quality issues. they're a drivetrain manufacturer learning how to put together a car.
Most car manufacturers have been building cars for 100yr+ in one form or another. They might choose not to use every lesson learned but they do have a lot of experience in all the tricky little areas that are needed to make a car.
I think Tesla still has the air of fasion and rebellion about it for now but this will fade and if they can't up the quality they'll start to look like a French manufacturer. Pretty cars that fall apart.

Skoda have been building cars for 125 years.  

I know they are owned by VW who was only founded in 1937.

 

By now Skoda should be able to keep H2o out of vehicle cabins considering they do not build convertibles. 

They should be able to tell the VW Senior Management / Board that they can not longer accept crap parts and then sell cars with them. 

 

Vorsprung Durch Technik.     Learn by mistakes, and then sort out your sh-1t. 

23 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Skoda have been building cars for 125 years.  

I know they are owned by VW who was only founded in 1937.

 

By now Skoda should be able to keep H2o out of vehicle cabins considering they do not build convertibles. 

They should be able to tell the VW Senior Management / Board that they can not longer accept crap parts and then sell cars with them. 

 

Vorsprung Durch Technik.     Learn by mistakes, and then sort out your sh-1t. 

Ever tried telling your bosses that they don't know sh-1t? It normally doesn't work out as great for you, so I suspect that Škoda may have subtly tried but stopped short of full-blown confrontation with the VW Senior Management / Board, for self-preservation reasons. I think Skoda started to build cars in 1905, so they have only been building cars for 119 years, still a bleeding long time.

Edited 9 May, 20242 yr by Graham Butcher

The big issue looming for VW Group are DQ381 DSG premature failures.  Maybe it will be a Government Agency or Court outwith the EU or Europe that will have them sort their sh-1t.

Then the little stuff that they just can not get right generation after generation of models. 

 

They really do need partners when it comes to EV,s as they have quite a bit of catching up to do and getting new models out and virtually issue free, and if there are snagging faults address them ASAP.   Maybe listen to the customers that can pick up on what those that signed off vehicles seem unable to. 

 

SKODA need to own this issue with PHEV,s.  

Unreal how customers are being let down by After Sales / Warranty work and lemons.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/521326-locking-pin-for-ev-cable-will-not-engage-followed-by-complete-12v-battery-failure

 

Edited 9 May, 20242 yr by Ootohere

22 hours ago, Stonekeeper said:

If the UK did not promote immigration, population would be decreasing now.

 

The birth rate in the UK is below Two per Woman.

 

That means a significant population rise unless the mothers of the newborns are terminated immediately, during their lifetime their offspring could produce another 16 children whilst still remaining beneath the "two per woman" that you quote which I hope is a misquote and means "of women that bear children"

 

Even with many women remaining childless and starting their families much later in life the population increase is significantly higher than through immigration however the immigrants will also start families and they are likely to be of a culture where women have more children and younger just as the UK once was.

2 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

The big issue looming for VW Group are DQ381 DSG premature failures. 

What issues are these then?

1 hour ago, wyx087 said:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405069428886?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Electric&make=&fromsra

 

2013 Leaf 24 kWh, 180k miles on the clock, 11 years old.

Averaged 45 miles every single of those 365 days 11 years. 

 

Although "EXHAUST AND MECHANICS ALL IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. No Funny Noises. Smooth Gear Change." not sure the seller has tailored their sales patter for the EV market. 

 

It will still work well for many people, my family included, as second car local runabouts. Oh yes, that's why we got one 😁 

I think it is highly likely that the list of features etc is made up from other peoples lists for all kinds of cars and the seller has copied and pasted various bits into their own, hence many parts, including the section you highlighted, is in caps where most of the rest is in lowercase.

36 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

That means a significant population rise unless the mothers of the newborns are terminated immediately, during their lifetime their offspring could produce another 16 children whilst still remaining beneath the "two per woman" that you quote which I hope is a misquote and means "of women that bear children"

 

Even with many women remaining childless and starting their families much later in life the population increase is significantly higher than through immigration however the immigrants will also start families and they are likely to be of a culture where women have more children and younger just as the UK once was.

 

Source of the 2.1 per woman

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7834459/

 

Source of The prospect of UK population declining without immigration

 

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-impact-of-migration-on-uk-population-growth/

 

 

My full post was in response to a discussion that Global population will start to fall.

 

The consensus is that it will as other Countries develop and more  Women globally see less need for having many Children.

 

I get your point about multiple generations existing at the same time but as each generation has less children the numbers of Grandparents with many Grandchildren will reduce.

@Graham Butcher  Do you have search engine failure today?

 

It is the issue growing among the maybe tens of thousands even into the millions of DQ381,s used in various applications.

Failures in Warranty and out of warranty and growing.

 

Maybe a small percentage.  But it is how the Manufacturer deals with the paying customers that matter. 

The issue might grow to be bigger than the issues there were with DQ200,s & that there can still be. 

Replacement level fertility is the level of fertility at which a population exactly replaces itself from one generation to the next.

 

As I said somewhat graphically to get over the point, that would only be true if mothers were euthanised after giving birth or before their offspring were allowed to procreate.

 

There is something going on with all governments that peddle misinformation statistics like this and also the life expectancy statistics leading people to believe that the population wont increase if they have 2 children or that people are living longer than their parents generation, I believe its because Economic Growth relies on consumerism and increasing population regardless of the consequences.

3 hours ago, wyx087 said:

But I honestly don't see any bias from someone whose job is to analyse and combat mis-information

You say her job is to analyse and combat misinformation.

I say her job is to ensure compliance with a desired narrative and to try and discredit anyone who fails to adhere to what is the approved "consensus".

 

Anyone who's been paying attention to world events over the last 3-4 years might reasonably get uncomfortable deja-vu from the use of the word "misinformation" used (along with "disinformation"). Or maybe it's just me? Previously it was commonly used to ensure compliance with the "safe and effective" narrative.

 

Now the facts are slipping past the wall of narrative consensus, all but the most ardent true-believer is starting to wonder whether they have made a terrible mistake on that front.

Hopefully the negative impact will remain small, but time will tell.

 

Of course, the idea that electric vehicles are especially problematic for potholes is going to require some robust data to back it up, data that the Mail Online is never going to provide, but I don't think Pallavi is any more reliable a source.

How often do you hear 'i can not believe my own eyes',  or 'I can not believe i did that'. 

 

Just sayings.  But anyway, believe or believe not any damn thing you like. 

Some do not even believe things their nearest or dearest tell them so why would they believe someone they have never meet or maybe even heard of before they read or heard something from them.

 

They, as in everyone is at it, or not at it.  'Believe me'.  

Edited 9 May, 20242 yr by Ootohere

Only the fullness of time will tell us who is/was right on the population front. However the claims do take some believing when you consider that the Government claim that they have control of our borders to kerb the immigration that we had pre "B" and graph appears to show immigrants as the reason for population growth. Looks like trying to control narrative and shift the blame onto boat people and garner support for their Rwanda flights.🙄

Edited 9 May, 20242 yr by Graham Butcher

2 hours ago, Ootohere said:

@Graham Butcher  Do you have search engine failure today?

 

It is the issue growing among the maybe tens of thousands even into the millions of DQ381,s used in various applications.

Failures in Warranty and out of warranty and growing.

 

Maybe a small percentage.  But it is how the Manufacturer deals with the paying customers that matter. 

The issue might grow to be bigger than the issues there were with DQ200,s & that there can still be. 

I think that most makers have their share of problems, but it is as you say, how they deal with them that matters. We have had  discussions about this aspect before and it was decided, so I thought that they all will try to get away without doing anything unless they are forced to. 

 

Edited 9 May, 20242 yr by Graham Butcher

Things are changing so to get back to EV,s and TESLA Cybertuck.

 

The Media World, Motoring Press /Publishers were Fan boys, the Car Manufacturers Advertise with them, take Journalists to lovely places full inclusive to reveal cars and have them reviewed.

We have had them being 3 monkeys for many decades.  Car Manufacturers even have ownership of publishers and online companies.

 

But now there are the 'Anti Ev' side of the media, or media owners.

 

There are those that are against Elon Musk or Tesla, or both and then Elon Musk's Social Media organisation.

 

It has been long enough getting to where the Media might get torn into the German Manufacturers and their failures or manipulations. 

 

No hiding for TESLA anymore when they are getting it wrong or for many other companies. 

If the main stream / establishment media do not get the facts out then Social Media can.  Or versions of facts with lots of speculation and much that is just guff. 

 

 

 

 

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Credit to VW when they do act and get on improving things / models.

 

 

 

 

Edited 9 May, 20242 yr by Ootohere