4 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Seen a few cars , who should have air con driving along with 4 windows open so presumably their air-conditioning gas level etc not working.

Or maybe they are just enjoying the weather?

In summer i will put the windows down with aircon off until it gets above 24 (75 in old money) and then it's set to 22

4 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Distance from the sea does not equate to higher temperatures; the hottest spot in the UK yesterday was Gosport.

A class 2/3 weather station it sits on a coastal aviation facility, the presence of localized artificial surfaces (such as nearby runways, tarmac, or concrete pads) typically prevents it from achieving a pristine Class 1 rating. Most operational airfield stations of this nature are classified as Class 2 or Class 3 due to these close-proximity heat-absorbing materials.

The closest pristine, strictly certified Class 1 climate station in the wider region is the historic Rothamsted weather station in Hertfordshire (82miles). Because true WMO Class 1 stations require completely uninterrupted open fields, zero asphalt, and specific long-term environmental protections, they are exceptionally rare in the urbanised south of England. [1, 2]

On Wednesday, 24 June 2026, the peak temperature recorded at Rothamsted reached approximately 31.0°C to 32.0°C, contrasting sharply with the 36.1°C logged at the Fleetlands airfield.

Edited Thursday at 13:035 days by Stonekeeper

4 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

Or maybe they are just enjoying the weather?

In summer i will put the windows down with aircon off until it gets above 24 (75 in old money) and then it's set to 22

Temperatures were / are well over 30C so unless one is fresh out of tropical zone then it is uncomfortable and especially, like now, when the humidity is so high. I am emptying the water drain every couple of hours as the air-conditioning unit is taking so much water out of the cooled air.

Think I will get another one of these units for the upstairs, exhaust the hit air in to the loft ad i have before. Prices gone nuts as well as choice. Got my 7000 BTU one for £200 with a window kit but now they seem to have spiked up in price. One supplier wanted £999 for a 12000 BTU aircon unit. Con forvorice rather than con for conditioning.

Lots of evaporation units trying to pass off as proper air con units. They work a bit but not enough for neaf blood temperatures.

4 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Temperatures were / are well over 30C so unless one is fresh out of tropical zone

It is currently 30 degrees on the Gauge in my room my body is still at it's usual 37 😉

I might be sweating if i was getting up and down emptying water out of my aircon unit though 🙂

@lol-lol was that the one on Amazon by any chance? I have been looking for one as well and there doesn't seem to be any around. Plenty of the sub £100 units on Amazon, but they all rely on either the evaporation process (useless) or blowing air over ice cubes, also useless. Had one of those a few years ago and it did work a bit as long as you had ice cubes. Ice cubes melted long before replacement ones froze, so I returned it as useless.

I noticed on some units on Amazon that were quoting deliveries well into 2027.

Edited Thursday at 13:135 days by Graham Butcher

7 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

A class 2/3 weather station it sits on a coastal aviation facility, the presence of localized artificial surfaces (such as nearby runways, tarmac, or concrete pads) typically prevents it from achieving a pristine Class 1 rating. Most operational airfield stations of this nature are classified as Class 2 or Class 3 due to these close-proximity heat-absorbing materials.

The closest pristine, strictly certified Class 1 climate station in the wider region is the historic Rothamsted weather station in Hertfordshire (82miles). Because true WMO Class 1 stations require completely uninterrupted open fields, zero asphalt, and specific long-term environmental protections, they are exceptionally rare in the urbanised south of England. [1, 2]

On Wednesday, 24 June 2026, the peak temperature recorded at Rothamsted reached approximately 31.0°C to 32.0°C, contrasting sharply with the 36.1°C logged at the Fleetlands airfield.

Presumed Gosport was an automated Stevenson box and the Gosport one wi be reported recalibrate after reporting its record 36.1C so the reading maybe be tweaked and confirmed by the Exeter based Central Met Office which will be interesting.

Just wish they would report temp in Kelvin which I prefer.

1 minute ago, Graham Butcher said:

@lol-lol was that the one on Amazon by any chance? I have been looking for one as well and there doesn't seem to be any around. Plenty of the sub £100 units on Amazon, but they all rely on either the evaporation process (useless) or blowing air over ice cubes, also useless. Had one of those a few years ago and it did work a bit as long as you had ice cubes. Ice cubes melted long before replacement ones froze, so I returned it as useless.

Yes was on Amazon, was about £239 i recall but had 10% or so off and ended up about £204 but had a window kit but not the best and i will probably get a better one, longer exhaust pipe and better fit to side opening windows. Yodel delivery which worried me but was OK and it was delivered ahead of time. Probably get similar one for upstairs and as a back, if it failed I would have to get in the car and go for a long, in time, drive.

Temp here showing 33C currently.

5 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Presumed Gosport was an automated Stevenson box and the Gosport one wi be reported recalibrate after reporting its record 36.1C so the reading maybe be tweaked and confirmed by the Exeter based Central Met Office which will be interesting.

Just wish they would report temp in Kelvin which I prefer.

Any station that is in an area with significant heat island characteristics should be negated from the results.

Edited Thursday at 13:195 days by Stonekeeper

2 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Yes was on Amazon, was about £239 i recall but had 10% or so off and ended up about £204 but had a window kit but not the best and i will probably get a better one, longer exhaust pipe and better fit to side opening windows. Yodel delivery which worried me but was OK and it was delivered ahead of time. Probably get similar one for upstairs and as a back, if it failed I would have to get in the car and go for a long, in time, drive.

Temp here showing 33C currently.

There is one there for £999 and delivery tomorrow (prime) but no good for hinged windows either.

13 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

There is one there for £999 and delivery tomorrow (prime) but no good for hinged windows either.

Outrageous price, that unit should be about £299 at most.

@Graham Butcher i interesting, Ok. FAMOUS VEHICLES with manufacturing and material faults. **** materials glues. No worries with a Skoda. They havd nice pressure release flaps that might let water into your boot. If cars designed and built in the 1960,s and into the 70,s were doing it in the 1970,s 80,s then they might still do it in the decades since. They never just healed them selfs.

Edited Thursday at 14:085 days by Evolution13

17 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

Any station that is in an area with significant heat island characteristics should be negated from the results.

Indeed af big cities can add 10F or more than 5C.

Going to get much worse for Heat Island cities as more and more of us get aircon belting out masses of hot air in to the atmosphere.

Gosport not much of a town if memory serves from my times at Portsmouth and Warsash seeing it in the distance from land and sea. We will see if the result gets tweaked.

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

Indeed af big cities can add 10F or more than 5C.

Going to get much worse for Heat Island cities as more and more of us get aircon belting out masses of hot air in to the atmosphere.

And the figures will all be used to determine "average global temperatures" so whatever happens with co2 the fear mongering will continue?

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

Gosport not much of a town if memory serves from my times at Portsmouth

It's an Heliport lots of tarmac and concrete.

5 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

And the figures will all be used to determine "average global temperatures" so whatever happens with co2 the fear mongering will continue?

99% of scientist believe in the link between CO2 and global warming.

Just see what happened to Venus !

5 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

It's an Heliport lots of tarmac and concrete.

Does sound like heat island conditions.

Having spent much of my time at Heathrow I have experienced concrete heat island mucho.

Edited Thursday at 15:245 days by lol-lol

1 hour ago, Evolution13 said:

@Graham Butcher i interesting, Ok. FAMOUS VEHICLES with manufacturing and material faults. **** materials glues. No worries with a Skoda. They havd nice pressure release flaps that might let water into your boot. If cars designed and built in the 1960,s and into the 70,s were doing it in the 1970,s 80,s then they might still do it in the decades since. They never just healed them selfs.

Modern cars have vents from the cabin into the boot or even directly to the outside of the car via the boot area or quarter panel area. I remember one of the very first cars to do this was the Rover P6, and they advertised this in their brochures of the day, as seen below.

I really enjoyed my 2000TC model and also the P5 before that.

Are you having issues with your charger showing error codes and your car not being charged? If so then this could be the reason for it.

7 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Are you having issues with your charger showing error codes and your car not being charged? If so then this could be the reason for it.

Zero issues with Error codes relating to out of range voltage.

Very occasional issue with car being not happy with the Earthing not being good enough but this is normally solved by reinserted, checking the charge lead metal terminals are dry and clean. Leads have boots to go over the end when not in use but some don't always fit them back after each charge.

The voltage tolerance is massive from what I can see. The wallboxes and granny chargers setup the voltage from 200 to 250 volts up to 400 volts which the car needs to charge. Interesting to see how all electrical devices cope in the UK as the National Grid rachet done the UK voltage down from 240v nominal towards 220v nominal to align with European normal voltages.

@lol-lol With the error that you get from time to time, I'd be inclined to actually get the earthing and all associated bonding on your house and charging point checked professionally. If you do have a dodgy earth connection, one day when you come to disconnect your car, you could receive a nasty shock by becoming the earth bond, which could be fatal. I'm sure that we'd all rather be chatting with you than chatting about you.

Edited Friday at 21:204 days by Graham Butcher

9 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

@lol-lol With the error that you get from time to time, I'd be inclined to actually get the earthing and all associated bonding on your house and charging point checked professionally. If you do have a dodgy earth connection, one day when you come to disconnect your car, you could receive a nasty shock by becoming the earth bond, which could be fatal. I'm sure that we'd all rather be chatting with you than chatting about you.

Car says something like cannot charge and this is nearly always the car is not happy with the earthing and this is invariably doe to lead not having a connection with the car and either a wiggle of the lead ie just apply slight downland or upwards pressure and that oft works or unplug and replug in. Does not oft happen and seems to happen more in wet weather.

Biggest problem I come across on those rare occasions I do public charge is the different chargers have different sequences of doing things and a bit of a faff. Gridserve expensive but works quickly, BP and Shell awful and I avoid.

As I said the Type 1 and 2 chargers at home seem very robust but the voltage display on the Granny charge box wax showing an incredibly low 200 volts when charging the car from my home batteries but it still charged. J think a combination of the home battery unit being more like 220v, the losses in the extension lead and maybe the unit under reporting.

Have build another Arctic spec extension lead but yet to test. At only 8A set current the Granny charger was showing about 1500w, battery close to 1600w output and xmcar showing about watts 1400. Also car showing over 24vhours to hit the target charge level. Free solar energy or like today electricity negatively priced so not too worried abd an interesting project to work on. Will be interesting to see what the Octopus-CATL home batteries are sold at.

Edited Saturday at 07:294 days by lol-lol

Defo sounds like losses are being incurred in undersized extension lead. Is it a long one?

Is it one of those wind up ones that have the outlets on the side?

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

Defo sounds like losses are being incurred in undersized extension lead. Is it a long one?

Is it one of those wind up ones that have the outlets on the side?

It's a 10m 13a rated lead but tests have shown on can lose 2% or a bit more. It is not just the loss but the lower than ideal voltage means a slice less power being delivered to the car.

The reel lead probably use 1.25 mm wire whereas the Arctic lead uses 1.5 mm sq wiring and is rated to 16 A. I could go further and get the 2.5 mm sq Arctic cable which would be 32A I gather. Quite a bit more expensive.

I can crank the Granny charger box up to 10A which my battery should be over capacity as it is only rated at 2200 w continuous but I reckon it would be ok for a good while. Looking to get a 3 to 4 kw output battery but not aeen any great deal on them but wi be interested to see what Octopus-CATL offer.

Edited Saturday at 11:114 days by lol-lol

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

It's a 10m 13a rated lead but tests have shown on can lose 2% or a bit more. It is not just the loss but the lower than ideal voltage means a slice less power being delivered to the car.

The reel lead probably use 1.25 mm wire whereas the Arctic lead uses 1.5 mm sq wiring and is rated to 16 A. I could go further and get the 2.5 mm sq Arctic cable which would be 32A I gather. Quite a bit more expensive.

I can crank the Granny charger box up to 10A which my battery should be over capacity as it is only rated at 2200 w continuous but I reckon it would be ok for a good while. Looking to get a 3 to 4 kw output battery but not aeen any great deal on them but wi be interested to see what Octopus-CATL offer.

1.5 or 2.5 mm cable would far better, the losses would greatly less. I take it the 220V is at the consumer unit, or is at the output end of the extension lead?

6 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

1.5 or 2.5 mm cable would far better, the losses would greatly less. I take it the 220V is at the consumer unit, or is at the output end of the extension lead?

Yes a nominal 220v according to the manual.

Have a multi meter which can read up to 750 volts but a bit scared to try and measure.

Suspect the 220 can fall to 210 or lower under high load and then further losses in the extension lead.

There is the temperature effect took ie when starting up when warm ie it is 30 -35 C and then it warms up another 5 or 10 C in operation which will further reduce the delivery voltage and therefore power in watts.