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Times broadcasting a discussion with ex BP exec and Farmers union lead about what could happen with diesel cost and supply and rationing for "non-essential" users ie the public not engaged in essential services.

My son in law picking a 80 KWh ID Buzz tomorrow to replace his diesel VW Caddy so he can keep working as he is self employed and no, or ridiculously expensive transport powered by fuel means not being able to get to work and get paid or net profit being squeezed massively....

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Anyway. Talking about it will make no difference. Up sh!t creak without a paddle happens on occasions in the UK. Sometimes Labour in power & sometimes the Tories. People someplace will make a killing out of it as usual. The Labour Party are at their wee swarree. Balls, Buffets & Banquets.

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14 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

My son in law picking a 80 KWh ID Buzz tomorrow to replace his diesel VW Caddy so he can keep working as he is self employed and no, or ridiculously expensive transport powered by fuel means not being able to get to work and get paid or net profit being squeezed massively....

He may well need some luck with a Buzz - they do not appear to have a particularly good reliability reputation - I've seen a lot of posts about them dying for no apparent reason.

Just now, Evolution13 said:

Anyway. Talking about it will make no difference. Up sh!t creak without a paddle happens on occasions in the UK. Sometimes Labour in power & sometimes the Tories. People someplace will make a killing out of it as usual. The Labour Party are at their we swarree. Balls, Buffets & Banquets.

Indeed, not giving much at all away but Excise cut expected I think. Not that helps farmers already running on RED diesel and claiming the VAT back so they are not paying any tax on their vehicles that run purely on RED.

The excise cut would help the non VAT registered diesel driver and road haulage then many big haulage firms charge a fuel surcharge so fuel rises get passed on to customers and they would benefit from Excise cut not all haulage firms who have already negated fuel price rises.

Extra VAT take already helping UK government coffers since 28th of Feb. I would expect fuel duty to go down from 52.95 p per litre to 44.6 per litre which with the VAT would mean a cut of over 10 p a litre but oil companies have to be watched to check they do not just trouser much of it as it appeared their profits jumped massively from Q1 to Q2 this year, be interesting to see their Q3 profits in a few days time.

Looking forward to the zero VAT on electricity units and standing charge kicking in in 34 hours time.

1 minute ago, skomaz said:

He may well need some luck with a Buzz - they do not appear to have a particularly good reliability reputation - I've seen a lot of posts about them dying for no apparent reason.

Tried to persuade him to go for the Kia PV5 but no joy.

IDs have had numerous issues with their software. VW been just about the bottom of the pile for their software compared to other brands but they finally seemed to have got it together with some Chinese help.

The new Cupra Raval, ID Polo, Epiq seem to getting great reviews and maybe the new king of the small EV. Lets hope sales match the press reception lese VW etc or they may be in more trouble than they are now which is hard to imagine.

Silver one S-i-L gone for so he will have to get a surf board I suppose. Dont know if he sat in the Kia but at 6'5" maybe his height might have been an issue in the Kia as I generally found Hyundai and Kia on the dinky size but I expect they have got better in that regard to accommodate, Dutch, Nordic and US supersized people, come to think of it I did have a Sportage on hire in Alberta /BC and it was roomy in the front. awful fuel consumption form its NA 2.4 litre engine but petrol was about the same price as bottle water especially in Alberta / Manitoba / Saskatchewan where they extract about 4.5M barrels a day and send nearly a million a day to Vancouver to ship to Asia, now missing out California to their loss. Shame don't pipe to Thunder bay to send down the Lakes to Europe.

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Might be worth another attempt. I heard that the buzz is no longer being mzde, support might be difficult soon.

Swansea fuel station getting ahead if itself......

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They must me reading your posts about the doom and gloom coming to us soon and decided that it was happening now. 🤣🤣

Just now, Graham Butcher said:

Might be worth another attempt. I heard that the buzz is no longer being mzde, support might be difficult soon.

In US and even being extended non production for another year so 2028 before it may restart presumably if the Democrats get back in.

European production and sales have been quite strong though tweaks to production schedules have occurred to match sales. VW are now producing a LFP battery chemistry with a 60 ish battery and range of only 200 miles on a good day so again production will be tweaked depending on how well that sales and presumably we will see sodium and solid state versions too eventually.

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7 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

They must me reading your posts about the doom and gloom coming to us soon and decided that it was happening now. 🤣🤣

Dont kill the messenger. I am surprised the Times, C4 and others are peddling but then it is a click bait world.

I am just getting the pop corn in to watch on !

15 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Might be worth another attempt. I heard that the buzz is no longer being mzde, support might be difficult soon.

I think it's a pause in production of the Buzz to clear out existing stocks. Likely to be back being made in late 2027 / 2028 by all accounts?

VW Group have had plenty time now to sort out Snagging Faults with the ID Buzz, and all the other VW Group new models or new generations with faults / issues. Now they have a new issue to get their Dealerships & Authorised workshops to deal with. Which Skoda's in which regions of the globe that might be affected would be handy to know. For Skoda owners / drivers. ** NoteVW Caddy 11 years of production from 2013.

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2 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

VW Group have had plenty time now to sort out Snagging Faults with the ID Buzz, and all the other VW Group new models or new generations with faults / issues. Now they have a new issue to get their Dealerships & Authorised workshops to deal with. Which Skoda's in which regions of the globe that might be affected would be handy to know. For Skoda owners / drivers.

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I lost my faith in the VAG Group about a decade ago and have been happy with Renault and even Dacia pretty much since then.

All the Germanesque car makers have had a lost decade but they have finally woken up and started to produce good cars again. Mercedes winning European Car of the Year, BMW knowing making some standout cars though still very pricey and VAG finally producing a well designed EV ie the ID Polo and its spin off the Epiq and Raval, not sure about the A2, the original one was silly and not sure new one is much better.

World is so much more competitive now ie Kia, BYD etc.

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