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Hill hold :- Is it possible to activate the facility where the brakes are held on when stationary until you drive off?

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My Kamiq [SEL with 1.0 petrol and DSG] does not have the option of the brakes remaining on until I drive off. The brakes do remain on for a brief period when I stop, but with my Superb, the brakes remain on until I drive off. My Superb [150 SEL with DSG 2021] has an electric hand brake, the Kamiq has a manual hand brake.

 Can this facility be activated via the cars system?

So effecively, you wish to enable autohold in a car which isn't equipped with it?

My understanding is that the autobrake is like hill assist, except that it works on the flat, uphill and downhill and works by maintaining brake line pressure until the car moves. I can see no reason why this shouldn't be technically possible even with a traditional handbrake. After all, on a car with an electric handbrake, that doesn't activate when the autobrake is on, only when applied via the handle or by switching off the engine. But because it is theoretically possible, it doesn't mean it can actually be enabled. And of course there is no button.

The VW Group have used all sorts of names over the years.   Hill hold assist and Hill hold control. 

 

If there is no reason why Autohold can not be activated to work on 1.0TSI Fabia, Scala & Kamiq without e-Brakes then someone might be along to tell how to code that in.

 

Skoda might make it standard or an option. 

Surely, with DSG when you stop you keep your foot on the brake pedal until you want to set off?  That's how it worked with my previous Fabia with DSG and with my current Kamiq DSG. 

 

Alternatively, you can select N when stopped and hold the car on the manual handbrake until ready to set off, then select D releasing the handbrake as you do so.

I'd think that there are safety reasons why VW Group would not include that possibility with a manual handbrake, remember on cars with electric handbrake, under a few conditions the "hill hold" will be converted to "handbrake on", and that includes driver's seat belt removed and/or driver's door opened and engine switched off - so you can't accidentally get out of the car with only "hill hold" keeping the car from moving.

 

Edit:- I do agree that having one car with permanent "hill hold" and one with "hill hold lite" is annoying, but that is the way things are.

 

Another Edit:- future project could be to retro fit electric handbrake, but that would cost quite a bit.

Edited by rum4mo

 

On 19/05/2022 at 17:03, Seasider said:

Surely, with DSG when you stop you keep your foot on the brake pedal until you want to set off?  That's how it worked with my previous Fabia with DSG and with my current Kamiq DSG. 

 

Alternatively, you can select N when stopped and hold the car on the manual handbrake until ready to set off, then select D releasing the handbrake as you do so.


That’s the way I do it with my Kamiq DSG.  The only thing I haven’t quite got a hold of is a little harsh pull away.
 

 

We did have an A3 and that had an electronic handbrake, it was a right pain in the rear.  We added Hill Hold but I either it wasn’t activated or we were missing something.  Starting on a steep incline easily resulted in rolling back.

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