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Tyre Wear - Karoq Sportline 1.5 tsi 2020

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Have 225/40 x 19 Bridgestone Turanaza fitted (as new). Tyre pressures checked every couple of weeks and set to the recommended values as per petrol cap details. Car has now covered approx 9200 miles from new (December 20). I've noticed that the front tyres appear to be wearing around the outside edge. Ive never hit a pothole. I drive carefully. The steering on the car is also fine. Had anything else has experience of this? Is it normal for these tyres? 

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  • @Pappasmurf Welcome to the forum.   Who will you be using Henrys or Arnold Clark or AN Other?   Neither will be doing a Hunter Alignment check or able to be coming to much of a con

  • We don't know you that well. Our combined experience is that tyre edge wear is usually an issue with cornering technique and/or slightly low pressures.

  • If someone at Hendrys really gives a toss about a customers 2 year old car with the outer edges wearing then they must be new employees there. 

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1 hour ago, Pappasmurf said:

I've noticed that the front tyres appear to be wearing around the outside edge.

Just the outside edges? I've got 2 possible ideas, depending on whether or not the inside edges are also wearing.

1 minute ago, KenONeill said:

Just the outside edges? I've got 2 possible ideas, depending on whether or not the inside edges are also wearing.

 

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Mine has done ~5000 miles and my tyres are beginning to look like that. They will not be replaced with another set of Turanzas.

Same happened to Hankook Ventus Prime 3

 

Now will see the new set of GoodYear Efficient Grip

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Inside edges are fine. It's actually going into the dealer next week for a few things and I've mentioned the tyre wear and I'm looking forward to the feedback. There are, in my view, two things that are possible. 1 - The tyres are rated 'A' for rain (I'm sure) which means they are soft and will wear quicker. It's just the outside edge thing that is the concern. 2 - There is an issue with the tracking. But that has nothing to do with me as the car is well looked after. Car doesn't pull and no potholes have been hit. I personally wouldn't say I'm a huge fan of the Bridgestones in any case so they will not be my choice when replacing. Didn't expect such wear on the outside edge after 9000 miles. 

1 hour ago, Pappasmurf said:

1 - The tyres are rated 'A' for rain (I'm sure) which means they are soft and will wear quicker. It's just the outside edge thing that is the concern. 2 - There is an issue with the tracking

3 - You turn quickly, which causes outside edge wear even with accurate tracking.

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4) No I don't. If I did, I wouldn't have posted. Thanks for the information though. If anything, if say I'm a conservative driver. You haven't met my wife

20 hours ago, Pappasmurf said:

Car has now covered approx 9200 miles from new (December 20). I've noticed that the front tyres appear to be wearing around the outside edge. Ive never hit a pothole. I drive carefully.

 

 

 

My car was purchased a month earlier from down the road in Ayrshire and has covered just over 5000 miles. I too am a careful driver however I don't think there's been a single journey where I haven't hit potholes or road calming humps and bumps - it's unavoidable. You're only kidding yourself if you think you haven't.

 

Of far greater importance, what's your tyre depth like. What depth are your fronts and rears? ( Assuming you haven't swapped your tyres from front to back ).

 

 

 

 

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Tyre depth across the test of the tyre is probably around 2mm above the wear indicators. I'd have expected to be changing the tyres around 12-13k miles. The speed of the outside tyre wear is the concern. The reason for posting this was to see if this is a common issue either with the car itself or these particular tyres and to look at the feedback prior to the car going in to the dealer. It is undoubtedly a 'soft' tyre but why the outside edge is wearing so quickly is the problem. I myself will not be replacing with Bridgestones based on my experience. This is not the only issue with my car but there is a time and a place to post the isofix clips not securing in the back seats (common issue), the lag on the infotainment screen, the intermittent "camera parking system is unavailable" and a steering wheel fault

Alignment might not be correct from factory.

 

Suspension parts can settle / move.

 

Taller / heavier cars exert more pressure on the outside edges of tyres when turning.

 

Using the loaded / high speed tyre pressures can help.

 

 

Thanks, AG Falco

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Thanks "Falco". I've been driving for years (approx 30) and have had a few cars in my time. This is the newest car I've ever owned (bought as an ex demo with 400 miles). I had done my research and those is the car I wanted but the niggling issues that have already been looked at by the dealer without success up till now, plus the tyre wear, which I'm not convinced isn't an "issue" gives me mixed feelings as to whether I made the right choice. Just one of those things. Goes into the dealer for the second attempt at the other issues plus the tyres. I'm not holding my breath

@Pappasmurf Welcome to the forum.

 

Who will you be using Henrys or Arnold Clark or AN Other?

 

Neither will be doing a Hunter Alignment check or able to be coming to much of a conclusion on the tyre wear you have.

Hitting potholes is not the only reason that alignment or tracking can be out, they can be that way from the factory, or from speed bumps or climbing kerbs etc. 

 

The first 400 miles the car did might just be where the issues comes from.

'Never raced or rallied or driven by the person actually owning the car'. 

 

Maybe best having a qualified person doing an Alignment check and adjustment. 

That is someone with all the gear and more than ideas. 

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It will be Henry's. After I get it back, I'll take it from there. I never managed to test drive the car before purchase as it was "Lockdown" times and it was delivered from Huddersfield. I have to say that the 19" wheels and 40 profile tyres leave a lot to be desired in the comfort stakes. I see the newer model comes with 18"s now. Can only be an improvement on the ride quality

1 hour ago, Pappasmurf said:

Thanks "Falco". I've been driving for years (approx 30) and have had a few cars in my time.

 

Been driving for 45 years.

Run three cars at the minute.

At one point was driving 80K miles per annum. ( tyres were being fitted every couple of months )

Work at a place that will see 400 cars a month and has over 1600 tyres in stock and sell more than that every month.

 

Don't assume that A rated wet grip tyres are soft.

Do assume large tyres with low a profile can be softer.

All the Bridgestone Turanaza's in 225 40 19 have noise rating of 72 dB , so higher than average.

The recent noise ratings have had an effect on tyre hardness.

Some tyres had to be made softer to pass these noise ratings.

 

The tyre wear in your photos don't look correct to me.

Is the top photo of your N-S-F tyre?

What tyre pressure do you run?

 

Thanks, AG Falco

@Pappasmurf - If you're open to the idea that it may be a suspension adjustment issue, where do you work? I might be able to recommend a place to do alignment, but need to know if they'll be reasonably handy for you.

I see lot of same side wear posts (front tyres only) from different Karoq forums, can I blame the car characteristics :) ?

 

At 15k km wear marks were visible, tyre pressure always between (32-34 psi)

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I'm in Inverclyde. I run my tyres according to what's inside the petrol cap, 2.4 bar all round.

 

I've attached another couple of photos. Both tyres are almost identical. Outside edge worn. Inside edge wearing similarly to the the middle of the tyre. 

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You have some cracking roundabouts in your area. 

Maybe how you attack them might have something to do with the wear. 

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I go around roundabouts conservatively. I certainly do not "screech" around them. I'm glad I got my problem solved on here. It's my driving style. Who knew? Weirdly it has only happened like this in this car. The same roundabouts haven't affected tyres on other cars I've owned though. Hmmm🤔 Also, why is the wear the same on both front tyres? You would think if it was my driving, as we go around roundabouts clockwise, most of the wear would be on the front n/s tyre. I'll see what the Dealer says anyway and I'll watch my speed at roundabouts 😃

Just maybe get the Alignment set before fitting new tyres and do not buy like for like.

Basically they are not the best of tyres.  Have you had the same before in that size? 

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Tyres are from factory. Bridgestone Turanaza 225/40 x 19. I had an A5 before this and I remember changing the tyres to what I thought were "good" tyres going by the reviews. Uniroyal Rainsport 3s. They wore very quickly as well but across the whole tyre. Like I said, I find the wear on the outside edge a bit weird and a bit unexplained. I was hoping others had experienced the same issues so I could go to the dealer armed with some hard facts. Ultimately I'll be getting the tracking checked but I know that apart from roundabouts that I have been driving past for years and an array of speed controls at some places around here, the car has not been bumped up on a high kerb or whacked into a pothole. I'm currently looking at Vredstein Ultrac or Hankoom Ventus as replacements. I'll 100% not be getting Turanazas

10 hours ago, Pappasmurf said:

I'm glad I got my problem solved on here. It's my driving style.

We don't know you that well. Our combined experience is that tyre edge wear is usually an issue with cornering technique and/or slightly low pressures.

If someone at Hendrys really gives a toss about a customers 2 year old car with the outer edges wearing then they must be new employees there. 

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1 hour ago, roottoot said:

If someone at Hendrys really gives a toss about a customers 2 year old car with the outer edges wearing then they must be new employees there. 

I'm spoilt for choice here. Henry's North or South or Arnold Clark. Who would you recommend?

 

Going back to my original post. In summary, I'm closer to 50 than I am to 20. I've lived in my area for practically my whole life and had different cars ranging from Escort MK3, Peugeot 106 XSI, Passat and others along the way. The Karoq is the newest I've had the chance of owning.  In my opinion, and that's all it is, the outside edge of the tyres is wearing abnormally. I've never noticed that on any other cars I've owned in the past. My driving these days is "careful" to say the least. If I thought it was my driving style, I wouldn't have wasted anyones' time on this forum. I was hoping others had possibly seem the same issues with their Karoq and possibly the same tyres (Turanaza). A few people have commented on their wear and the tyres. As for the dealers, as the car is still under Warranty, I have limited options that I can use. The car is now approx 16 x months old but has only covered 9100 miles. I actually have been less surprised if the tyres at the front were needing replaced because the whole tyre was worn not just the edge. Ive also learned that sarcasm doesn't really work. I thank everyone for their inputs though even if I don't agree with them all😃 Going forward, regardless of what the Dealer says, I'll be getting the alignment checked and the new front tyres will not be Turanazas.

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