Hi, long time lurker, first time poster.

 

I need some help/advice on fitting Audi TT seats to my '99 felicia pickup.

 

I have seen these fitted, but no one seems able to tell me how. 

 

Has anyone here carried this out? Do you have pictures of how you did it? 

 

Pic for attention 

WHATTTTT???

 

59 minutes ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

WHATTTTT???

 

What?

12 hours ago, Fiddy said:

I have seen these fitted, but no one seems able to tell me how.

I've never done this, but have fitted aftermarket seats. You need custom subframes that bolt to your floor and your chosen seats.

Edited 30 July, 20223 yr by KenONeill

https://youtu.be/jbteh1MAgLI

 

Here's video of fitting MK5 Golf seats - which should be similar to MK2 TT.

 

They fit to mounts, but end up too high, which is why they had to mod the floor.

 

MK1 TT had different mounting, with rails integrated in the floor. That's require somehow welding Felicia rails onto the TT seat.

 

11 hours ago, KenONeill said:

You need custom subframes that bolt to your floor and your chosen seats.

 

Sometimes the frame does not fit and need customization which means money and time plus cutting-welding isn't always the best for safety.

We have seen seats detach from their frame with fatal results for the driver.

 

11 hours ago, Papez said:

They fit to mounts, but end up too high, which is why they had to mod the floor.

 

Even without modification the seat has different dimensions (width-height) so in the end you can end-up with seat higher than before and have problems with the seat belt bracket.

You have to measure so many things before, it's a risk.

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 

Sometimes the frame does not fit and need customization which means money and time plus cutting-welding isn't always the best for safety.

We have seen seats detach from their frame with fatal results for the driver.

 

 

Even without modification the seat has different dimensions (width-height) so in the end you can end-up with seat higher than before and have problems with the seat belt bracket.

You have to measure so many things before, it's a risk.

Thank you. I'm thinking I'll stick to the original plan of re-covering the originals.

13 minutes ago, Fiddy said:

I'm thinking I'll stick to the original plan of re-covering the originals.

Are you doing that work yourself as I've found trimmers/upholsters are now fewer and further between and charge more than a number of years ago and the good ones are always busy so weeks before you can get the work done (6 weeks for me when I booked my work in last week).

 

ETA: I like the colour of yours.  Is that a vinyl roof and pillars covering, did you do that yourself? 

Edited 30 July, 20223 yr by nta16
ETA:

2012, a fatal accident here in Greece to a pro-racer.

Take a look below the seat, a wrong modification cause it.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, nta16 said:

Are you doing that work yourself as I've found trimmers/upholsters are now fewer and further between and charge more than a number of years ago and the good ones are always busy so weeks before you can get the work done (6 weeks for me when I booked my work in last week).

 

ETA: I like the colour of yours.  Is that a vinyl roof and pillars covering, did you do that yourself? 

The roof is just black paint. It's having a full respray in audi speed blue (soon, hopefully). I'm not in a huge rush to reupholster. Got lots to do before then. So a long lead in wouldn't be the end of the world.

7 hours ago, Fiddy said:

Thank you. I'm thinking I'll stick to the original plan of re-covering the originals.

 

There's another variant, although I've never seen it done: Felicia seats with side airbags have backrest frame from Octavia MK1. That means, you could swap foam and upholstery from Octavia (or other car using the same frame).

Bottom part of the seat could be more problematic, but it might fit after minor modifications

14 hours ago, Papez said:

you could swap foam and upholstery from Octavia (or other car using the same frame).

 

Some guys at Upholstery repair-shops can replace the base-side factory foam with their own make it look like a Recaro.

They also can make a custom cover for this seat.

23 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

2012, a fatal accident here in Greece to a pro-racer.

Take a look below the seat, a wrong modification cause it.

 

 

 

 

Must of been quite the crash.

 

Hard to see with a low res picture but looks to me like he had it setup with a bucket seat, side mounts bolted to seat base adapters. Cant see too much but looks like the seat base adapters are hardly misshapen and definitely not sheared, looks like the wrong either strength, length or type of bolt was used to mount the seat bases to the vehicle and its snapped off. Sad to see and it would be very interesting to know what they put the cause of this seat being ejected was. 

 

Youd also hope that with this type of seat youd have correctly mounted multi point harnesses which should of still contained the seat within the car, probably using standard seat belts with aftermarket seats, or even worse would be mount the harnesses directly to the seat!!

6 minutes ago, ApertureS said:

Hard to see with a low res picture

 

https://nb.bbend.net/media/news/2021/05/14/1195963/main/dragster-distixima1.jpg

 

https://www.agriniopress.gr/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/7-1.jpg

 

Too many mistakes in that accident.

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As for the foam on base-sides, i have seen in many videos that the extra foam can be glued on the stock foam of the seat so no need to replace the whole thing (less cost).

 

 

18 minutes ago, ApertureS said:

or even worse would be mount the harnesses directly to the seat!!

 

That was my exact thought.

 

I saw a Ginetta type kit car presented to scrutineering at Lydden Hill circuit, it was a completely bodged up shed and the scrutineer was looking for a default serious enough so that the guy could not fix it and risk his and the other competitors lives, his lower harness points were attached to the seat frame with spindly roofing bolts, bad enough but the rear attachments were to the rollcage, using a single jubilee clip through the hole in the bolt plate.

 

He offered to reinforce it with Tywraps 😲

14 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

That was my exact thought.

 

I saw a Ginetta type kit car presented to scrutineering at Lydden Hill circuit, it was a completely bodged up shed and the scrutineer was looking for a default serious enough so that the guy could not fix it and risk his and the other competitors lives, his lower harness points were attached to the seat frame with spindly roofing bolts, bad enough but the rear attachments were to the rollcage, using a single jubilee clip through the hole in the bolt plate.

 

He offered to reinforce it with Tywraps 😲

Sounds about right for some cars that people build.... I got half way through a 1986 mk2 polo and fitting and complete roll cage (front struts all the way to rear attaching at 16 points) and it got about half way through fitting the cage and every weld would blow through, not because of welding, the metal was so deteriorated and rusting away that the cage had nowhere to mount safely, in the end i sold the cage and turned the car into a small cube as it was simply not safe and I wasnt going to put me or my partner in it. Whereas a lot of people would simply cover up the work with some pretty filler or carpet and call it a day until they crash. 

 

22 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 

https://nb.bbend.net/media/news/2021/05/14/1195963/main/dragster-distixima1.jpg

 

https://www.agriniopress.gr/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/7-1.jpg

 

Too many mistakes in that accident.

Might be wrong but it looks like the lower crotch strap is still in the first photo, saying to me that it was physically attached to the seat... not the car.

No wonder the seat ripped out, for anyone taking notes - the harness/belt is attached to the car frame so that when you crash and your entire body weight hits that seat belt, the car supports that belt and you and the seat may move but as youre now against the seat belt, the seat itself will only have to support its own weight.

Whereas when you attach your harness to the seat itself, when you go forward and fully load up the seat belts, youre loading up the entire seat with that force and weight, nothing is gonna stop that seat, you and the belt from simply being ejected as a single entity with nothing attaching you to the car except 4 relatively small bolts.  

And if you have survived being thrown through the windscreen as you are sailing through the air you can contemplate that when you hit Terra Firma or whatever obstruction stops your trajectory that you really do not want to be doing this with your body folded 90° with 10-15kg of fibre glass and twisted metal strapped to your back, your body and internal organs will become the airbag that absorbs all that momentum.

It looks to me like, somehow or other, the subframe bolts have torn through the shell; always use penny washers top and bottom of the subframe to shell mounts, and bolt the seatbelt to the shell with more penny washers used!

Penny washers through the floorpan for harness mountings would not be sufficient for Motorsport, at least not in the UK with the RAC/MSA writing and enforcing the regs in the Blue Book.

36 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Penny washers through the floorpan for harness mountings would not be sufficient for Motorsport

 

 

Eye Bolt?

On 29/07/2022 at 23:24, Thefeliciahacker said:

WHATTTTT???

Yes. That's right. A new member with a cool style! I hope they stay and become a regular.