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Hello can anyone tell me the weight difference between a 2009 2 litre diesel hatchback Octavia and the estate version, I can't find anything definitive online, for instance a parkers page suggested the hatch was 40kg heavier which i thought was odd 

The given 'Kerb Weight' / Unladen weights are often odd and when you put a car on a weigh bridge or corner scales you know VW Group manipulated figures.

 

Like a Mk2 Fabia vRS Hatch which Skoda gave as 5 kg heavier than an estate that is 9 3/4" longer.  But then there was 25 kG ballast on the rear crash bar of the hatch.

 

The VW Polo GTI 3 door Twincharger showed as lighter, and even the 5 door which was only supposedly 25 kg heavier than the 3 door.

The heavier Seat Ibizia 3 doors showed as being lighter as well.   Later VW had to correct the fiction / fuddle / fiddle / cheating.

 

Funny how a heavier Audi or VW with the same drivetrain / power as a Skoda can have better economy and performance than a lighter and cheaper Skoda or SEAT.

It is the same for years now  with Basic cars costing less with less standard equipment but the same power can show as less efficient / quick. 

 

PS.

The better balanced Polo GTI got the battery in the boot and wider tyres as the Ibiza did, 

and no Spare wheel or jack as standard so they were options and not included in the 'Manufacturers' given weights. 

So that knock 20 Kg or so off. 

Edited by roottoot

Too many variables to answer this accurately, there are "typical" weights but they again can vary depending on chose specifications

Glass is heavy too, along with changes to other parts of the car that add up, wiring looms and extra control modules all factor in.

 

The empty weight range is quite large, and has the caveat 1) listed underneath the picture

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As above, the actual weight depends on a great number of factors.

 

Both the 10/2009 and 01/2010 brochures show the following table which suggests the estate is ~15kg heavier in it's 2.0l TDi form:

 

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6 minutes ago, varooom said:

Too many variables to answer this accurately, there are "typical" weights but they again can vary depending on chose specifications

Glass is heavy too, along with changes to other parts of the car that add up, wiring looms and extra control modules all factor in.

 

The empty weight range is quite large, and has the caveat 1) listed underneath the picture

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Interesting.  Do you have similar details for the estate as well?

 

Just now, MikeTheThinker said:

 

Interesting.  Do you have similar details for the estate as well?

 

That is from the SSP document (training material) for Octavia II, and having skimmed the document there is no difference and they simply lump in all in that weight range.

The picture/data tables from old catalogs like @langers2k just posted will give you more better comparisons, but still the caveat applies of specification will change the values.

I shall check other documents and see if there is any listed differences.

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46 minutes ago, langers2k said:

As above, the actual weight depends on a great number of factors.

 

Both the 10/2009 and 01/2010 brochures show the following table which suggests the estate is ~15kg heavier in it's 2.0l TDi form:

 

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So looking at that chart you could use either for towing as their capacities are identical in hatch or estate , interesting that the only difference is boot space (seats up) 

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