Hi - I am finding Lane Assist to be unhelpful and a little bit unsafe on my Octavia. I don't like it trying to turn the steering wheel at all!   Apart from the roads on which I gather it is intended to be used It is a problem on some of the tight country lanes that I drive in the Yorkshire Dales -  it is forever giving me warning sounds and fiddling with my steering wheel - even when I just pull in to a passing space.  I can not disable it for a full trip (I can turn it off before I drive away, but when eco turns the engine on and off again after stops at lights or hill starts  etc it comes back on again.  Is there any way I can disable Lane Assistance permanently?  I appreciate that it is presented as a a Safety Aid that is EU recommended now - but personally I find it neither safe nor helpful.  I  also think its use should be at the discretion of the drive.  Ditto Front Assist.  Anyone found a way to disable these Assists for a full trip (including eco stops)/permanently?

16 minutes ago, HappyCamper111 said:

I am finding Lane Assist to be unhelpful and a little bit unsafe on my Octavia.

That's not just you. I think there's an AliExpress device that remembers the last settings for Lane Enforce and FrontNanny, which seems to be what you want.

37 minutes ago, HappyCamper111 said:

Hi - I am finding Lane Assist to be unhelpful and a little bit unsafe on my Octavia. I don't like it trying to turn the steering wheel at all!   Apart from the roads on which I gather it is intended to be used It is a problem on some of the tight country lanes that I drive in the Yorkshire Dales -  it is forever giving me warning sounds and fiddling with my steering wheel - even when I just pull in to a passing space.  I can not disable it for a full trip (I can turn it off before I drive away, but when eco turns the engine on and off again after stops at lights or hill starts  etc it comes back on again.  Is there any way I can disable Lane Assistance permanently?  I appreciate that it is presented as a a Safety Aid that is EU recommended now - but personally I find it neither safe nor helpful.  I  also think its use should be at the discretion of the drive.  Ditto Front Assist.  Anyone found a way to disable these Assists for a full trip (including eco stops)/permanently?

Could you turn off the s/s? Then it should stay off until you turn the ignition on again.

I experienced exactly the same issues with my previous car (none Skoda), so I bought the SE spec without these annoying functions. Within my opinion they're more of a safety hazard than a prevention. 

Thanks Phoenixboy - that had done the trick.  Have to repeat the process at at the start of each journey but that is simple enough and the Assists stay off for each trip,

2 hours ago, Phoenixboy said:

Could you turn off the s/s? Then it should stay off until you turn the ignition on again.

I experienced exactly the same issues with my previous car (none Skoda), so I bought the SE spec without these annoying functions. Within my opinion they're more of a safety hazard than a prevention. 

Unfortunately Lane assist is a liability in UK as we don’t repaint white lines on some roads frequently, and allow patchwork roadworks that leave all sorts of false lines from edges of repairs.   Even motorways have partly removed temporary lines.   All of which confuse it as clearly wasn’t designed to work with our patchy roads

 

 

Even Lane Keep / Lane Keep assist left set at it's most sensitive is not an issue when pulling into a passing place or parking spot.

Use mirrors and use the indicator. 

(Are you not below 40 mph anyway as you are pulling into a passing place?)

 

Using your indicators when crossing centre lines is easy enough when they are there, holding the steering wheel when meeting cars is easy and adjusting sensitivity is easy. 

Edited 23 October, 20223 yr by roottoot

4 hours ago, HappyCamper111 said:

Thanks Phoenixboy - that had done the trick.  Have to repeat the process at at the start of each journey but that is simple enough and the Assists stay off for each trip,

I also dislike unnecessary tech. I also turn my s/s off, too. As it's never worked reliably since I've owned the car, but saying that I've never owned any car with a reliable s/s system. So i don't actually miss my s/s. 

Just as an anecdote. I recently took Octavia 4 with travel assist and new Civic on a test drive on country roads. Involved quite a bit of uphill/downhill and sharp turns. The road was overall marked, but there were places where it wasn't. I activated travel assist on both cars and set the speed to 60 km/h.

 

Octavia resulted in subjective 3/5. It managed to stay in lane and turn for about 70% of the 4 km strip I tested it in. Sharp turns did not go well and occasionally it would just drive itself out on the incoming lane. On more shallow turns it did keep itself in the lane.

Honda was 4,5/5. I was trully and utterly amazed on now well does it stick to the road. There were couple of places where there were no or confusing road marking where it explicitly disconnected lane guidance. However, on most of the other places including really sharp turns it did amazingly well.

14 hours ago, Phoenixboy said:

As it's never worked reliably since I've owned the car

Interesting. Seems you have eTEC as i do. I find S/S very good, unlike in my previous two cars.

mHEV really does great job here.

1 hour ago, AndreyZh said:

Sharp turns did not go well and occasionally it would just drive itself out on the incoming lane.

All VAG cars disable lane assist on sharp turns. This is by design. Probably so that drivers are not trying to use it as "autonomous driving" kind of function.

1 hour ago, Felix2021 said:

Interesting. Seems you have eTEC as i do. I find S/S very good, unlike in my previous two cars.

mHEV really does great job here.

 

I've previously owned 4 auto cars with s/s, none worked reliably. 3 X Astra K's and a previous Leon 1.4t. To be honest I usually leave mine on and put up with it, although my current Octavia and my 4 other previous cars were autos. I've also owned an Astra J with a manual box, the s/s on that was more reliable. 

Edited 24 October, 20223 yr by Phoenixboy

What do you mean by "reliable"?

I had Leon 1.4 TSI manual and Ateca 1.5 TSI DSG.

In both cars hated S/S, as it was causing vibration on start. In manual it was bit better, as you could control S/S with clutch. In Ateca it was terrible, because of the lag.

In O4 for me it's smooth and very fast. There is no lag on start. I like it a lot.

6 hours ago, Felix2021 said:

What do you mean by "reliable"?

 

Mine was a 1.4t Leon dsg with the tech pack. "Reliable", meaning it doesn't work when you want it to, probably less than 50% of the overall time, also would cut out whilst you were slowly moving or just before you stop. Basically it had a mind of it's own. My previous Astra auto with S/S, the S/S would only work around 10% of the time, that was always the case from when I bought it, no matter what the driving conditions were, long, short journies, mattered not. 

There's little vibration from my Octavia's engine, after it fires up again. 

12 hours ago, Phoenixboy said:

Mine was a 1.4t Leon dsg with the tech pack. "Reliable", meaning it doesn't work when you want it to, probably less than 50% of the overall time

Well, that's nature of S/S in a way. It doesn't work, when engine needs more power for some reason, shouldn't work after spirited driving, to allow turbo to cool down, and doesn't work when A/C needs to cool down the interior. Anyway i can see, that in O4 to works more often than in Ateca and Leon. But S/S will never work 100% of the time, even in "full" hybrid.

12 hours ago, Phoenixboy said:

also would cut out whilst you were slowly moving or just before you stop

Yes, that was annoying. One of the reasons i have almost always disabled it in Ateca.

But in O4, which is mHEV, this is not an issue for me. Engine start is so fast, and drive aided by electric motor-generator), that i cannot see a difference between this, or having engine running all the time. I mean situation where i'm slowing down, engine shuts off, and before i stop i'm accelerating again. In O4 reaction to accelerator is instant.

12 hours ago, Phoenixboy said:

There's little vibration from my Octavia's engine, after it fires up again.

Yes, there is, but it barely noticable for me. Or maybe i will put it another way - some vibration is there, but it's not annoying for me

Combining it with a fact, that - again - reaction to accelerator is instant, it have no issue with this at all. In fact i very much like S/S in this car

On 25/10/2022 at 11:39, Felix2021 said:

Well, that's nature of S/S in a way. It doesn't work, when engine needs more power for some reason, shouldn't work after spirited driving, to allow turbo to cool down, and doesn't work when A/C needs to cool down the interior. Anyway i can see, that in O4 to works more often than in Ateca and Leon. But S/S will never work 100% of the time, even in "full" hybrid.

Yes, that was annoying. One of the reasons i have almost always disabled it in Ateca.

But in O4, which is mHEV, this is not an issue for me. Engine start is so fast, and drive aided by electric motor-generator), that i cannot see a difference between this, or having engine running all the time. I mean situation where i'm slowing down, engine shuts off, and before i stop i'm accelerating again. In O4 reaction to accelerator is instant.

Yes, there is, but it barely noticable for me. Or maybe i will put it another way - some vibration is there, but it's not annoying for me

Combining it with a fact, that - again - reaction to accelerator is instant, it have no issue with this at all. In fact i very much like S/S in this car

My s/s really doesn't bother me to be honest, as I could turn it off if and when required. When I stated that I have 'a little', noise when my car drops 2 cylinders, I meant to say 'very little', noise, infact I hardly notice it has occured, apart from the screen light. I think it's a good idea and it saves fuel. 

I like my car on a whole and it's my first Skoda in over 30 years of driving. The only annoyance I have is an resonance/rattle type sound that seems to be coming from my front dash area at between 1700-2000rpm whilst slowly accelerating. Not resolved it yet, think it's probably been there from factory. If that's the only thing I've got to moan about, think I'm doing well🤣

 

 

 

 

 

On 24/10/2022 at 16:00, Felix2021 said:

What do you mean by "reliable"?

I had Leon 1.4 TSI manual and Ateca 1.5 TSI DSG.

In both cars hated S/S, as it was causing vibration on start. In manual it was bit better, as you could control S/S with clutch. In Ateca it was terrible, because of the lag.

In O4 for me it's smooth and very fast. There is no lag on start. I like it a lot.

I test drove the previous model Civic (1.0r CVT se), prior to buying my 2019 Octavia 1.5t dsg. I was impressed with the overall interior build quality of the civic, not so much with the CVT box. Also the 1.0t needs a very expensive timing belt change every 4 years (dealer cost £1500), as it's a wet belt, strip engine down job. So that put me off the 1.0t a bit, alongside the CVT transmission. The 1.5t Civic has a timing chain I believe so probably a better choice, but couldn't get it within the SE spec which I prefered.

So I went for the Octavia instead. Was a close choice for me, though. 

 

got my vrs end july and have had very little problems with it.the only thing it does but not very often warns me of a crash even  i am nowhere near any other car. the steering just give me a very light touch to warn me if am over  the white lines.

11 hours ago, Joss1733 said:

it does but not very often warns me of a crash even  i am nowhere near any other car

I also noticed something similar, and it's occurring quite seldom; however, it doesn't do it when there's no car in front, but it does it when there's actually no real collision risk. For instance, the car in front who is already quite far from me, slows down for a right turn; I start reducing the speed gradually, but because I'm still approaching the car in front the "crash warning" shows up.
A second scenario is when a car pulls out in front of me from a different lane; I react to that before there's any warning. In this case, what surprises me is the reaction delay of the system... It's already too late when it gives the warning.

 

12 hours ago, Joss1733 said:

the steering just give me a very light touch to warn me if am over  the white lines

I disable the lane assist almost immediately after start because of this behavior. I only find it useful over long distances on the highway, otherwise, I fail to see it's purpose.