Just tried to put my winter tyres on my Kamiq but the wheel nut holes don’t align with those on my steel rims!

 

The Kamiq has 205/55R17 tyres and my winter tyres (on steel rims) are 205/55R16 but it is the steel rims that are not the correct size for the Kamiq. Have previously used this winter tyre/steel rim combination on both a Passat and Octavia.

 

I’m considering putting the winter tyres on new steel rims but where can I find the compatible size? It is the holes for the wheel nuts that are different! 
 

Any advice gratefully received!

 

Thanks

https://www.skoda-parts.com/catalog/kamiq/spare-parts/accessories/wheels-steel-aluminium/steel-wheel-577.html

Odds are one of these 2x wheels will fit, but don't ask me, I am not a wheel expert.

 

2Q0 601 027H - 6J16 ET35

2Q0 601 027AA - 6J16 ET40

1 hour ago, Stretch47 said:

my winter tyres (on steel rims) are 205/55R16

Were they bought for an Octavia 1 perhaps? If so, then the wheels are 5x100 and the bolt centres on the Kamiq are 5x112.

Edited 6 December, 20223 yr by KenONeill

They will be 16” as you don’t want low profile if you want you can get the wheel spacing of the back of your alloys 

3 hours ago, KenONeill said:

Were they bought for an Octavia 1 perhaps? If so, then the wheels are 5x100 and the bolt centres on the Kamiq are 5x112.

Careful!!

Stretch47’s 2017 Octavia would have 5 x 112 bolt size. Kamiq bolts are 5 x 100.

5 hours ago, KenONeill said:

Were they bought for an Octavia 1 perhaps? If so, then the wheels are 5x100 and the bolt centres on the Kamiq are 5x112.

 

1 hour ago, TomWest said:

Careful!!

Stretch47’s 2017 Octavia would have 5 x 112 bolt size. Kamiq bolts are 5 x 100.

I've emphasised the model that would have had 5x100 wheels, for your special benefit.  

Do winter tyres really make that much of a difference?  This is a serious question btw as I’ve never bothered to use them.

 

Let me know, I’m genuinely interested.

Edited 6 December, 20223 yr by carefree

1 hour ago, KenONeill said:

 

I've emphasised the model that would have had 5x100 wheels, for your special benefit.  

Quite….but the bolts for a Kamiq are 5 x 100….NOT 5 x 112.

1 hour ago, carefree said:

Do winter tyres really make that much of a difference?  This is a serious question btw as I’ve never bothered to use them.

 

Let me know, I’m genuinely interested.

I think that they do! I was sceptical until I’d used winter tyres in snow but I want them every winter now!

 

Thanks for all the comments and ideas. I need to source some steel rims that will fit my Kamiq and get my tyres transferred to them. 

1 hour ago, carefree said:

Do winter tyres really make that much of a difference?  This is a serious question btw as I’ve never bothered to use them.

 

Let me know, I’m genuinely interested.

I was doubtful too, but having got some 3 years ago, it’s a very big yes, and am a convert.

 

They actually deal with cold rain lot better, in my experience in wet below about +10c.  The summer tyres would get skittish in field run off, autumn puddles etc, but the winters drive like road is dry.  Winter tyres are also more than happy if get a warmer day of day +15c.   On the 2 occasions we had snow could drive around happily including going up and down hills past others abandoning cars and 4x4s.  On a winding B road with 50mph limit and about 50-80mm of new snow did shock myself when I glanced at speedo and found I was doing 45mph, the tyres were that good, like driving on dry road, and soft snow had made it silent.
 

I have them on my Arona (which under the bodywork is very similar to a Kamiq), so can give very good feedback from experience.   April-October I use the 215/45 R18 wheels with Pirelli P7 tyres that car came with, November-April using 205/60 R16 on Borbet Y rims with Goodyear ultragrip 9+ tyres.   (The rims fit directly with original bolts, no adaptors).

 

There are some other advantages, when the wheels are swapped, they get switched around so my front and back tyres have same tread depth and no worn shoulders, car has done 43,000 miles, still got 5mm tread on P7s and over 6mm on ultragrip, so will probably not need any more tyres until over 75k miles, so cheaper than buying 2 tyres every 25-30k miles.   
 

I change them myself, takes about 40 minutes including getting jack and tyres out (first time I used the emergency jack), but now have a basic trolley jack from tool station, which I place on an off cut of old kitchen worktop as my drive is block paving (also means don’t need the more expensive high lift jack).

 

 

 

On 06/12/2022 at 20:26, carefree said:

Do winter tyres really make that much of a difference?  This is a serious question btw as I’ve never bothered to use them.

 

Let me know, I’m genuinely interested.

 

I'm another long time entusiastic user of winter tyres.  They do work (for me) and give great confidence in slush and snow. 

 

I swapped over our Polo 10 days ago, from 17" OEM to Continentals. Using pukka VW Polo 16" silver alloys.

 

Today I persuaded my older lad to lend a hand for the back breaking part to give my back a rest when swapping over my Kodiaq wheels.

 

Again using pukka 17" Skoda black alloys in place of the OEM 19" wheels.

 

I had the car and wheels all laid out ready.

 

All 20 bolts slackened off with breaker bar.  All 4 locking bolts removed. Trolley jack and impact gun on standby.

 

It took a matter of minutes to swap the wheels.

 

(though a few more minutes for me to wash the removed wheels)

 

As mentioned above, a second set of wheels and tyres shares out the burning of rubber and leads to an opportunity each year to shuffle the tyres as you wish.

 

However - in 2023 I shall consider the use of 4 Seasons tyres on one or both of the On-Order cars that will replace the current pair.

 

Why? The wheel changing exercise is becoming a bit more demanding on my aching bones and though I have room to store spare sets, I would appreciate getting some space back in my garage.  And, with annual mileage less than it was 2 or 3 years ago, the rubber sharing numbers game is becoming less important to me. 

 

Edited 8 December, 20223 yr by BoxerBoy

On 06/12/2022 at 13:42, Stretch47 said:

Just tried to put my winter tyres on my Kamiq but the wheel nut holes don’t align with those on my steel rims!

 

The Kamiq has 205/55R17 tyres and my winter tyres (on steel rims) are 205/55R16 but it is the steel rims that are not the correct size for the Kamiq. Have previously used this winter tyre/steel rim combination on both a Passat and Octavia.

 

I’m considering putting the winter tyres on new steel rims but where can I find the compatible size? It is the holes for the wheel nuts that are different! 
 

Any advice gratefully received!

 

Thanks

 

Ouch! So sorry to hear this!

 

You have to be careful to make sure you get the correct ET, where did you buy your steel wheels from? I got mine from my main dealer in Durham, 4 new steelies were £230 incl VAT and I put 4 Dunlop Winter Sport 5's on. I've used them once in snow and it goes anywhere, I bought the Kamiq 16" wheel trims from the Czech Skoda parts website and they were €40 for 4.

 

Good luck!

 

Edited 8 December, 20223 yr by AJ89

The PCD is what is concerned with the hole spacing.  And 5 x 100, not 5 x112. 

Just now, toot said:

The PCD is what is concerned with the hole spacing.  And 5 x 100, not 5 x112. 

 

Oops sorry! Yes that's what I meant 🤣🤦‍♂️

“You have to be careful to make sure you get the correct ET, where did you buy your steel wheels from? I got mine from my main dealer in Durham, 4 new steelies were £230 incl VAT and I put 4 Dunlop Winter Sport 5's on. I've used them once in snow and it goes anywhere, I bought the Kamiq 16" wheel trims from the Czech Skoda parts website and they were €40 for 4.”

 

Thanks AJ89.

 

Could you send me the part number of the wheels you bought please? I know it is 5 x100 I need but there seemed to be ET35 - which I think I need but also ET40. 
 

id need the tyres from my existing steel rims changed over so did you get that done at a local tyre supplier?

 

Thanks
 

 

 

4 hours ago, Stretch47 said:

 

id need the tyres from my existing steel rims changed over so did you get that done at a local tyre supplier?

Some will, some won’t (depends on their policy) if not their supplied tyres

 

But in my experience if you go to a fast fit centre at a quiet time (something like 9am Tuesday when staff are all standing around), they will do it, especially if you ask for a cash price, and say do you have a box for tips.    Work on assumption they might charge anything from £20-50 to do it

 

The outside diameter of 205/55R16 is about 1" smaller than the standard tyre sizes on the Kamiq, ie. the standard tyre sizes on the Kamiq have an outside diameter about 4% bigger than the 205/55R16 size.

 

On 205/55R16 tyres, your Kamiq's speedometer might over-read by almost 10% because even on standard tyre sizes the speedometer on Skodas tend to over-read by up to 5%.

 

Do you want to be doing only 45mph when your speedometer says 50mph? This is what could happen on much smaller outside diameter tyres such as 205/55R16.

 

mytyres are listing both 6Jx16 ET35 5/100 57.1 and 6Jx16 ET40 5/100 57.1 steel rims

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/rim-selector?type=steel&vehicle_ids=1164477921570600036%3A%3A0001

 

Edited 9 December, 20223 yr by Carlston

Thanks. Not worried about the speedo as my GPS readout will be accurate. 
 

What’s the difference between ET35 and ET40?! I’ve no idea……

52 minutes ago, Stretch47 said:

What’s the difference between ET35 and ET40?! I’ve no idea……

 

ET35 will move the centre of the tyre 5mm further out in the wheelarch compared to ET40.

 

The 205 tyre width on the Kamiq is normally used with ET40 (or ET38) offsets.

 

If you want to keep a standard look, use ET40 (or ET38).

 

I've put ET38 in brackets, because 16" steel rims for the Kamiq (ie. 5/100 57.1) are not available with this offset. Only 16" alloy rims are available for the Kamiq (ie. 5/100 57.1) with an ET38 offset.

 

By using ET40 instead of ET35, the front and rear track will be 10mm narrower. This will make it easier to drive through 2 metre (6ft6in) width restrictions without kerbing the wheels.

 

To help decide, perhaps look at standard rims with 205 tyre sizes on the Kamiq, and see if you want the centre of the tyres moved out 5mm each side.

 

An ET35 rim is the same as using an ET40 rim with a 5mm wheel spacer, as a 5mm wheel spacer effectively converts an ET40 rim into an ET35 rim.

 

Edited 9 December, 20223 yr by Carlston

On 07/12/2022 at 20:02, BoxerBoy said:

 

I'm another long time entusiastic user of winter tyres.  They do work (for me) and give great confidence in slush and snow. 

 

I swapped over our Polo 10 days ago, from 17" OEM to Continentals. Using pukka VW Polo 16" silver alloys.

 

Today I persuaded my older lad to lend a hand for the back breaking part to give my back a rest when swapping over my Kodiaq wheels.

 

Again using pukka 17" Skoda black alloys in place of the OEM 19" wheels.

 

I had the car and wheels all laid out ready.

 

All 20 bolts slackened off with breaker bar.  All 4 locking bolts removed. Trolley jack and impact gun on standby.

 

It took a matter of minutes to swap the wheels.

 

(though a few more minutes for me to wash the removed wheels)

 

As mentioned above, a second set of wheels and tyres shares out the burning of rubber and leads to an opportunity each year to shuffle the tyres as you wish.

 

However - in 2023 I shall consider the use of 4 Seasons tyres on one or both of the On-Order cars that will replace the current pair.

 

Why? The wheel changing exercise is becoming a bit more demanding on my aching bones and though I have room to store spare sets, I would appreciate getting some space back in my garage.  And, with annual mileage less than it was 2 or 3 years ago, the rubber sharing numbers game is becoming less important to me. 

 

I switched from swapping summer to winter tyre/wheels and vice versa twice a year to all season tyres 3 years ago, and for the same reasons as you- older bones! I chose Goodyear Vector All seasons and have been very pleased with them as an all year round tyre. I am sure that winter tyres are better in very difficult winter conditions and summer tyres are better in hot dry conditions but, honestly, unless you drive on the edge and considering UK weather All Seasons are a very good choice.

That’s all making sense - thank you! 

On 09/12/2022 at 15:48, Expatman said:

I switched from swapping summer to winter tyre/wheels and vice versa twice a year to all season tyres 3 years ago, and for the same reasons as you- older bones! I chose Goodyear Vector All seasons and have been very pleased with them as an all year round tyre. I am sure that winter tyres are better in very difficult winter conditions and summer tyres are better in hot dry conditions but, honestly, unless you drive on the edge and considering UK weather All Seasons are a very good choice.

 

Likewise I used to Swap summer/winter tyres to cope with the conditions on my awful commute. Latterly I moved to all season tyres - they seem a great compromise for driving in the UK, especially in the wilds of Yorkshire. I've had Vred Quatrac 5, Michelin Crossclimate and latterly Goodyear Vector tyres and all are good. The Crossclimates are amazingly quiet and are amazing in really wet weather and coped really well with some bad winter weather last week. Saying that the Vectors on Mrs BJ's Panda have transformed it's driving in the bad weather we've got at the moment - a small car with these on sticks to the road like a limpet negotiating roundabouts etc..

 

My days of swapping summer/winter tyres are over!!

 

1 hour ago, bigjohn said:

 

Likewise I used to Swap summer/winter tyres to cope with the conditions on my awful commute. Latterly I moved to all season tyres - they seem a great compromise for driving in the UK, especially in the wilds of Yorkshire. I've had Vred Quatrac 5, Michelin Crossclimate and latterly Goodyear Vector tyres and all are good. The Crossclimates are amazingly quiet and are amazing in really wet weather and coped really well with some bad winter weather last week. Saying that the Vectors on Mrs BJ's Panda have transformed it's driving in the bad weather we've got at the moment - a small car with these on sticks to the road like a limpet negotiating roundabouts etc..

 

My days of swapping summer/winter tyres are over!!

 

I just wish that on buying a new car I could specify the tyres, or at least, have All Season tyres as a cost option. Now when I buy a new car it’s a case of trying to get the dealer to swap the OEM tyres for All Season tyres of my choosing. Anyone found a dealer willing to do that?

There are such places.

But many dealerships use local tyre fitters to fit tyres for them.

Dealerships can not really sell 'Used Tyres' take off's.   Some might use them on cars, but they are used tyres even if they have just done delivery miles. 

 

Sell the tyres you have taken off and the tyres you fit can be cheaper than a dealership will charge.  You are a private person so not in the situation of a business as far as VAT / Taxes.

You pay VAT on buying whatever, you have not to answer to HMRC or trading standards or customers when selling used tyres.

 

There are manufacturers that do offer cars / pickup's with 'All Weather' tyres, not just Summer / ECO / All Season as in all year round tyres.

 

There is Skoda that offered 'All Season' Tyres as an Option, and had no idea what they were offering.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/423163-are-all-weather-tyres-legal-in-the-eu

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/440953-factory-fit-all-season-tyres

 

 

Edited 13 December, 20223 yr by toot

Sell the rim/tyre combo and buy a new set of the correct size pre fitted from my tyres or similar?

 

Now is a good time to sell a set of winters on rims 👍