Hi

 

I’ve just received my factory new Skoda Scala 1.5 TSI 150 dsg about 2 weeks ago, but i’m having trouble with the suspension.

 

The ride feels really jitterich and unsettled and on the motorway in jumps/vibrates a lot. Is this normal for the Scala? Testdrove it before buying, on a and b roads and it seemed fine, but didn’t test it on the highway. I’m riding on 16 inch winter tires (Goodyear Ultragrip)

 

I’m taking it to the Skoda dealer, so they can look at it at the 5. January.

Might be your winter tyres rims

@MortenH

Welcome to the forum.

 

Did the Dealership staff fit the wheels / tyres? 

 

Did you check what the tyre pressures were when the car was handed over and have you adjusted them to suit the load carried / weather / temperature?

Remember and reset the TPMS. 

 

Best check the Transport Blocks have been removed from the front springs. 

Plenty threads on that if you do a search.     If they find them still fitted then the car needs PDI carried out again by a competent technician.

3 hours ago, toot said:

Best check the Transport Blocks have been removed from the front springs. 

 

My thoughts as well.

Thanks for the quick answers 😊

 

Yes the dealers fit the wheels. I’ve checked the tire pressure. It was 2.6 in front and 2.8 in the back. I’ve changed it to 2.4 in front and 2.5 in the back, plus resat the TPMS.

 

I’ll mention the transport block when i’m at the dealer… really hope they have removed them though, although it doesn’t feel like that when at higher speeds 🫣

I’ve taken some pictures of the suspension. It doesn’t seem like there’s any transport blocks, but i’ve never seen cable ties used on the suspension. The cable ties are on the rear suspension – is this normal?

Hello Morten, welcome to the forum. How is the ride now with the lower pressures?

It is normal to slightly increase tyre pressures for winter tyres - although the dealer settings were probably a bit too high.

I believe that you have to lift the rubber bellows protecting the shocks from the bottom to reveal if the transport blocks have been correctly removed.

@MortenH Further to the above, the cable ties are securing the rubber bellows units to the dampers.

At the top, not the bottom.

 

Well I cant say that with 100% certainty from the photographs as the bottom isn't shown but they are a rigid shroud and not a bellows and could not be attached at both ends. You would equally not be able to lift the shroud as it is not a rubber bellows but would have to lower the suspension to its limit. Does the rear have transport blocks fitted? I have never seen one and if the dealers did their job none of us would have ever done.

 

Interesting that they have used marker paint to indicate any movement, also that the shrouds are no longer attached to the foam bump stops, that is a much better design.

On 30/12/2022 at 17:35, MortenH said:

Hi

 

 

. ....Is this normal for the Scala? Testdrove it.......

 

I’m taking it to the Skoda dealer, so they can look at it at the 5. January.

Well it isn't on my 1.5TSI. The car was delivered just before Christmas and I have driven it on all types of roads and up to 112K/hour on motorways. It is very smooth, even on our terrible rural roads. Running on 16 inch wheels and ordinary summer tyres.  Hope you can get it sorted out

John

On 31/12/2022 at 10:35, MortenH said:

I’ve taken some pictures of the suspension. It doesn’t seem like there’s any transport blocks, but i’ve never seen cable ties used on the suspension. The cable ties are on the rear suspension – is this normal?

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Normal holding the boot on that's a blue line marker from factory as checked 

So I’ve just been at the dealership. They rebalanced the tires and checked the car, so everythinf should be fine. Sadly though, it didn’t resolve the issue… It feels like driving on gravel 😩

 

So I’m thinking about what to do next. Going back to the dealer for sure, but considering going to another Skoda dealership and letting them look at it.

Does this occur on just one particular section of high speed road or over all of it? 

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2 minutes ago, John2022 said:

Does this occur on just one particular section of high speed road or over all of it? 

 

All of it. After leaving the highway it even seems worse at lower speeds for about 15 minutes or so. Then it sort of settles down.

That’s odd. Mine is quite smooth except for one short section of road. The road surface is badly weathered concrete slabs with the larger stones showing. The slabs are also fractured, basically it’s worn out and should be repaired. I drove over it at 20mph and the car shuddered and vibrated like crazy. Fortunately the section is only a few hundred yards long. My suspicion is that your problem may be related to the road surface and particular tyres.

 

On 30/12/2022 at 21:51, MortenH said:

I’ve checked the tyre pressure. It was 2.6 in front and 2.8 in the back. I’ve changed it to 2.4 in front and 2.5 in the back, plus reset the TPMS.

 

What tyre pressures are shown on the label inside the fuel filler flap?

 

If it's just you in the car, 2.4 front and 2.5 back seems a bit high for the Scala.

 

What size tyres are you using, as there's more than one 16" size on the Scala, eg. 195/60R16, 205/55R16, etc.?

 

What make and  model of tyres are you using? Some ride harder than others.

 

Maybe put a photo of the tyre pressure label up on here.

 

Edited 6 January, 20233 yr by Carlston

Okay so after some more driving and testing, I may have found the issue. I’ve noticed that everytime the car engages “2 cylinder”-mode the shaking and vibrations begin. It’s especially noticeable at 110 to 130 km/h. 
 

I’ve contacted the dealer and the Scala is going to the workshop the 18th january.

1 hour ago, MortenH said:

Okay so after some more driving and testing, I may have found the issue. I’ve noticed that everytime the car engages “2 cylinder”-mode the shaking and vibrations begin. It’s especially noticeable at 110 to 130 km/h. 
 

I’ve contacted the dealer and the Scala is going to the workshop the 18th january.

 

When these four cylinder engines go into 2 cylinder mode, it's the outside cylinders that keep working, and the inside cylinders that are shut down. This might be to keep the two shut down cylinders up to temperature or at least warmer than if the two outside cylinders were shut down. Because the firing order of a 4 cylinder engine tends to be 1,3,4,2 either cylinders 1 and 4, or cylinders 2 and 3, provide evenly distributed power strokes. This is because cylinders 1 and 4 move up and down together, and so do cylinders 2 and 3.

 

I would rather have a 2 cylinder hybrid car. The 2 cylinders (perhaps 75PS) being used for maintaining a steady speed, and a 75PS electric motor ready to cut in to give 150PS worth of acceleration.

 

It's also safer to have two engine systems. If just the petrol engine or just the electric motor breaks down you can get your car to safety using the remaining engine/electric motor. Waiting for a breakdown truck on a smart hard shoulder isn't really smart at all.

 

Edited 10 January, 20233 yr by Carlston

Good news - that will get sorted then. On mine the 2/4 cylinder change over is very smooth and not at all noticeable. The change over happens at speeds as low as 50km/h if the car is just drifting along - assuming it happens when the 'ECO' symbol appears. Be interested to hear what caused  the problem.

Edited 10 January, 20233 yr by John2022
Grammar

I no it's gone from suspension to engine but this youtube video explains the 1.5 act tsi

https://youtu.be/yoohR8sar5g

Okay, so a short update on my Scala.

The dealer had my Scala for a day, and they noticed the vibrations from 2-cylinder mode too(more than other similar Scala’s they have in stock). They tried to look for errors in the system but couldn’t find anything. They told that since the car have only done 2500 km it might get better with time (we’ll see…).

 

Interresting though, they found that the front right shock absorber is rubbing against something(didn’t quite understand what), but that it needs to be replaced fully – under warranty luckily.

Well I would not accept the 'it might get better with time' reply. That is absolute Bull ****! The transition between two and four cylinder operation should be barely perceptible, it will not alter with time until the mechanism develops serious wear. However I suspect the Scala suspension system is finely tuned so if there is a fault in the front it is feasible, I think, that the changed engine vibration pattern between four and two cylinder mode could cause a problem.

As said What a load of bull#### it won't get better in time. They can change the actuators they bolt on. Sounds like that's the problem hesitation vibration faulty one or more should be done on warranty take it back your not happy with the outcome 

Transport blocks are inside the shock boot🤯