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Electrical. Yeti 1.2. petrol 2011.

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Just a quick one.  No central locking from inside the car although the button on the car key does unlock the drivers door (but not the nearside rear door) ... the windows don't work either. There might be other things not working, haven't fully invstigated yet.

 

Both fuse box covers off.

 

Strangely the red flashing light on the drivers door has been flashing when it shouldn't be  (i.e the doors not locked).

 

If it's just a fuse then I hope to find it otherwise it'll have to go to my usual indie up the road and leave it with him.

 

Nothing unusual been done - hasn't got wet, hasn't had any work done.

 

If anyone has any suggestions  then I'd be grateful.

 

First time anything has gone wrong in 11 years.

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Just checked - it's the dreaded drivers door wiring loom. several wires visibly broken.

 

Is it worth trying to join them as a short term measure?

 

It's booked inot local indie in three weeks time (he clearly has plenty work on).

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The car is a 2011 model. Coming up for 12 years.

 

I'm wondering if this is the start of the time when things go wrong?

 

Some thought will have to be given to what will happen in the fututre.

 

If this particular problem were to cost, say £500 then so be it . If the other door needs doing then ... so be it, another £500.  If the DSG started playing up that could be several grand.

 

If the repairs were fully effective then maybe it would be OK but if I started getting niggly electrical issues or if the DSG didn't drive as well as it does now then  ........... ??

 

A new Yaris Cross would probably serve as a reasonable replacement but I'd be forking out between £21.00 and £24,000 but would have another ten years of warranteed motoring.

 

Food for thought.

 

 

 

I think that if this is your first problem in 12 years you are doing well! As to whether your problems are now starting, who knows? Our yeti started "playing up" after abut 5 years, (wheel sensors, battery, nothing serious), but I was always concerned about the potential for the pan roof to start leaking. I did not have dsg, but really fancied an auto so I started searching and (as per previous posts) I looked at pretty much every other small SUV but nothing really compared to a Yeti. I was going to get a Yaris Cross but at the time there was a 9 month waiting list. Eventually ended up with a Kia Niro PHEV which I really like, (previous model). Not quite as practical or roomy as the Yeti but a nice drive, comfortable, more economical and a 7 year warranty.

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Thanks, Stubod.

Couple of very valid points yopu raise there, I'm grateful.

 

Was interested to hear you mention the Yaris Cross and the Niro (and the reference to old version as opposed the new one).

 

The new Niro from Drivethedeal is quite a bit dearer than the Yaris Cross and the new version of the Niro is 55mm wider than the Yaris Cross (my garage door isn't very wide and two inches makes a difference) . The Kia dealer is more convenient re. servicing than the Yaris. Bothe have decent warranties. Both are well regarded but Toyota might have an even better reputation? I say all this having not driven either - or even sat in either ... ... that could make a difference (although I would think both are just fine).

 

As I say, there's food for thought and you've highlighted a couple of important points.  Ta.

A couple of guys on the 'other' forum have made successful repairs with a Febi wiring harness repair kit:

 

 

Thanks for that, I have bookmarked it, its only a question of time!

 

Does anyone have any part numbers for them? I might get some in advance.

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I quickly looked up Febi Harness repair kit for the Yeti and saw loads of stuff, most of which meant little to me but was taken to some comments to the effect that the colours disn't match the existing colours on the car.

 

I shall just have to leave it to the indie to do what he thinks best and will have to ask him to check the nearside too. I have visions of all sorts of electrical gremlins starting to appear afterwards though.

.....I loved the Yaris Cross, I had a test drive as I really don't like CVT's but the Yaris seems to have got around this problem by having "fixed" gears, and it certainly seemed OK to me during the test drive. I would have happily got one had it not been for the 9 month wait. The Niro appeared on my radar via a Which report and after a test drive I was quite impressed and our local dealer had a pre reg one with just 20 miles on the clock with the first 2 years servicing included. I would have prefered the level "3", but I am more than happy with the "poverty" spec level "2". I would not buy another car that was not "auto", with adaptive cruise and a rear parking camera!!

 

All in all the Yeti is a tough act to folllow and I always said if they still made them it would have been a no brainer to buy another, but after driving the Niro I am not so sure...?

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Was interested to hear the above ... ta.

 

Have started to look online again at what others could be considered if I was looking for a smallish, slightly tallish SUV type thing.

 

The Seat Arona, VW T Cross, Ford Puma are all a bit taller than the avarage hatchback and might be added to the Yaris Cross and the Kia Niro options.... although ideally I would like to keep below 1800mm wide if possible.

 

The Yeti is currently languishing in the garage looking sorry for itself waiting for the 23rd of Feb to arrive when it can get some attention.

 

I'm leaning towards trying to get him to change the wiring harness rather than splice it but I'll see what he says.

..I looked a all your above choices but ruled them out for various reasons, Seat Arona was nice but felt a little "cheap/basic", also did not fancy another VAG offering, Ford Puma has the 1.0 ltr engine (I think?), and they have had reliabilty issues with that, also seemed a little smaller in size due to the "funky" shape. I also tried the Mazda variants which were a great drive and really felt "quality", but a rather gutless (non turbo) engine and long "snout" put me off. I did like the Suzuki Vitara, but at the time they were not doing an auto box (on the hybrid), but would have happily brought one otherwise. Also quite liked the VW T-cross, but fairly low grade interior and again a VAG. Audi Q2 was also nice, but a bit steep price wise, (and another VAG). 

 

All in all my first choice would probably have been the Toyota Yaris Cross as this seemed to give the right mix of size, quality, price and 10 yr guarantee if serviced by Toyota, but saying that I am more than happy with the Niro and will probably be my next choice as and when I change, (although the new model Niro is a bigger car which I don't really like?).

I, personally would not bother repairing the damaged loom, I’ve replaced it with a new genuine one, more expensive? Yes. Less troublesome? Also yes. Cost around 120-130 € incl vat ( about same price in pounds),for that amoutn of money you will get an uprated, hanging, loom from skoda. Fitting time: ‘bout half an hour. 
Fitting it is no rocket science, just make sure that when you remove the old one to attach a rope on it’s end so you can pull the new one in the door ( that is the hardest part)B121DE5C-4807-4B08-AF8B-A2A3EACE8AB3.thumb.jpeg.0451d953fe7ade180b6383efdc293c19.jpeg

9 hours ago, Stubod said:

..I looked a all your above choices but ruled them out for various reasons, Seat Arona was nice but felt a little "cheap/basic", also did not fancy another VAG offering, Ford Puma has the 1.0 ltr engine (I think?), and they have had reliabilty issues with that, also seemed a little smaller in size due to the "funky" shape. I also tried the Mazda variants which were a great drive and really felt "quality", but a rather gutless (non turbo) engine and long "snout" put me off. I did like the Suzuki Vitara, but at the time they were not doing an auto box (on the hybrid), but would have happily brought one otherwise. Also quite liked the VW T-cross, but fairly low grade interior and again a VAG. Audi Q2 was also nice, but a bit steep price wise, (and another VAG). 

 

All in all my first choice would probably have been the Toyota Yaris Cross as this seemed to give the right mix of size, quality, price and 10 yr guarantee if serviced by Toyota, but saying that I am more than happy with the Niro and will probably be my next choice as and when I change, (although the new model Niro is a bigger car which I don't really like?).

Did you look at the Honda HR-V?

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Did you look at the Honda HR-V?

 

 

I did, but only the previous model when the dealer was conveniently sited - it's since moved. From where I am Exeter isn't as convenient (28 mile round trip with a lengthy 'round the houses' bus service) as Newton Abbot and the latter has a Kia dealer who collects and returns for a service... as does the VW (and Skoda) dealer opposite - which is where the Skoda used to get serviced (before I started using the local indie) so it was handy to have them pick it up, service and MOT it and bring it back.

 

The Seat dealer in Newton does collect and deliver so that might be a consideration.  If I went for a Seat it would have to have the Seat 5 year warranty (£320 if the website is up to date).  The Ford dealer in Newton doesn't collect and I don't think I fancy the Puma that much anyway. If i drove it I might change my mind I suppose?

 

But do I want to put my head in the mouth of the lion that is DSG????  Mine's been OK for 12 years (after they did the manufacturer decreed  modifications under warranty) but it's still a concern for me.

 

Exeter has all the makes in all the colours and all the sizes but to leave a car there for a service isn't all that convvenient - and I don't believe anyone there collects and delivers.

 

To summarize, from a convenience point of view ... VW, Skoda, Seat and KIa are all convenient.  Everything else is in Exeter. That includes Suzuki, Honda, Ford, Toyota , and everything else you can imagine (apparently Marsh Barton has one of the largest concentrations of car dealerships in Europe().

 

The Honda HRV's dimensions suit me nicely but it seems to get ignored. It looks expensive and there aren't as many discounts as would seem available on the others in question (and the dealer's not local any more) plus I'm not fond of the look of it at the front.  I had a Jazz and it was fine - Honda Jazz and Civic are popular round my way (it's an area populated by the elderly - me included).... but maybe they get them serviced at one of the (quite plentiful) Indies round here. I think I can rule a Honda out.

 

Your assessment of the makes you've spoken about in your post, stubod, mirrors my own thoughts to an uncanny degree. I couldn't disagree with anything you said there, even if I wanted to. As I said, I'm grateful for your thoughts here.

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..no, just did not like the look of the Honda....their styling does not float my boat...

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Car went in to my trusted indie today.

 

New door loom fitted - he showed me the old one - it had just two broken wires ... I thought it had more, but I was wrong.

 

He seemed totally unfazed by the whole affair, whereas I thought it was terminal ... how wrong I apparently was.

 

The part was £149 plus VAT

 

Labour was £50 plus VAT

 

Total was £239 inc VAT.

 

The new one was "looped" rather than "straight across" but he said there wasn't much slack in it and didn't think it would last as long as the original.

 

Needless to say, though, I'm pretty chuffed.

53 minutes ago, oldstan said:

he said there wasn't much slack in it and didn't think it would last as long as the original.

If it was the same materials but new will be more flexible conductors + not so much flex with the U shaped bellows.

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There were (are) ten connectors on the loom including the big one inside the rubber gaiter.

 

The part number for the old one is 5L0 971 120 ES

 

Looks like I can put thoughts of a replacement for the Yeti on hold for a while. Having it serviced and MOT'd next week.

 

Had it come to a replacement I think it would almost definitely have been a base model (Icon) Yaris Cross. Sensible wheels and tyres and grey headlining instead of black would be two advantages over higher spec models. I wouldn't need or want most of the stuff that comes with posher models and the colours seem the same throughout the range. I can manage without LED lights and moody interior lighting.

 

It looks like a 6 month wait at the moment.

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53 minutes ago, Urrell said:

If it was the same materials but new will be more flexible conductors + not so much flex with the U shaped bellows.

 

 

Truth be told I'm considering myself lucky to have got it done so easily and at such resonable cost and, given the loom lasted 12 years I don't think I'm gonna worry about the next 12 years. I'm hoping the nearside door doesn't suffer the same fate in the near future but am reassured that it can get fixed if it does.

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THe car is fine - no subsequent problems with it.  Looks like I got lucky.

 

I have added to the much earlier thread which talks about choosing a replacement for the yeti.

The details are :-    Replacing Yeti   By awfabia    6 July, 2020 in " Skoda Yeti " section

 

 

 

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