My car has been a beautiful runner for 10 years.  At Christmas I started to have problems with the electric windows.  if they went down I couldn't get them back up.  Took it for mot and full service they came back still not working properly.  in fact ive only been able to get them down twice in 3 months!.  two weeks ago I started to get a rattle under the bonnet as if the pump was going and this increased when I pressed the brake pedal.  Then, 2 weeks ago, the gear indicator began to flash as it changed gear instead of remaining static.  Yesterday, on a school run my car conked out completely as I was on a hill.  I had to turn it off leave it for 30 seconds then restart it.  its almost as if lost power.  

 

I called the RAC out at work.  when we took it for a test drive it stopped on me.  Man took over and it didn't for him and he looked at me in a weird manner.  Then his boss told him to take the car out without me.  I questioned this but he was having none of it.  He came back and said he had to advise me that I was to take it to the nearest garage to be seen.  Dont drive on motorways and keep the distance short. He said that it was drivable so he was not going to put the car on his truck.   I live 10 miles from work. I asked him what the matter was and all he said was there were a few transmission faults!! 

 

No skoda garage can fit me in before MAY and my local cannot fit me in until April so im stuck.  This isn't what I signed up with the RAC for. When they ask you if I still need repairs, fill in the form I haven't a clue what to put.  What is it electrical, the dreaded gearbox, Everything?

 

I had to drive home last night and it was honestly the most stressful time ever.  Rush hour traffic, conking out.  Help needed on what to do now without a car.

 

 

DSG I assume, you need an independent specialist.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/449229-new-engine-is-not-a-new-engine

 

@Badassfabia The DSG can get faults sadly. No surprise with your car at the age it is. 

 

What has been getting done at the Services other than Oil & Filter changes.

When was the Water Pump replaced if ever? 

Everything is checked and so pollen filters, brake fluid, new brakes in 2018, oil change can’t remember when without ploughing through paperwork. I worked abroad during the pandemic and so only have done 10k miles since 2019. In 2018 in the really hot weather after a service at Marshall’s Oxford the pump went a week later. Almost as if they’d done it. They fleeced me for another 600 quid or tried to. In the end as I needed the car badly I just paid it but never went back there. This is where i scrutinised my paperwork and discovered that the original engine replacement was just a reconditioned one because the engine number was the same.

since that incident I’ve had it with ŠKODA dealers and taken my car to be serviced at ŠKODA approved garages. They’re more trustworthy in my experience. This problem that I have now I do fear that the dsg gearbox may need replacing. 1500£ before Labour 
it’s got 112000mes on the clock and now I only do about 4000 annually since covid. I love my ŠKODA and hope that it doesn’t become a money pit. 
 

Edited 18 March, 20233 yr by Badassfabia

If it is just £1,500 before labour you are getting away lucky.    Where are they getting a gearbox?

 

It might not need a gearbox, but even if just the Clutch Packs or a MCU it will be costing you.

Just selector forks or an accumulator are unlikely.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/511614-fabia-vts-mk-ii-dsg-gearbox-failure

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/420740-mk2-fabia-vrs-aka-green-monster/page/3

 

 

on a 2010 car you are going to want new clutch packs fitted as well as the ECU refurb if needed.     (Later cars 2013-2015 might have had service campaign '34H5' which was a software update because of failures /leaks with oil pressure.

2009-2012 should likely of hasd '34F7' which was the oil changed from synthetic to mineral & the Software update.

The sticker is possibly in the boot showing your car had that done sometime since 2014. maybe when the engine was done.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 18 March, 20233 yr by toot

I’ll find out when it goes in to the local garage on 30th March 

7 minutes ago, Badassfabia said:

I’ll find out when it goes in to the local garage on 30th March 

 

You will if they know what they're doing with DSG, most garages will just remove the gearbox and send it off to a specialist so you end up paying a premium.

@Badassfabia A members vRS & into Parks Skoda Hamilton , a main dealer that had in the end to put the job out, they even managed to mess up fitting the replacement ECU.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/444617-7sp-dq200-dsg-failure

   Over £3,000 5 years ago. 

 

How it needs done with a refurbed MCU.

 

 

 

Unfortunately these VRS MK2 are a money pit, oil fixes £700+ , waterpump £700+ , Mechatronics + new Clutch packs recoding £2.6k , various sensor issues over the years, luckily I've been taking too same consistent garage otherwise would have given up by now.

VAG are not a performance car manufacturer, they are too value driven to care about their halo cars, they pare away at costs and as a result build unreliable cars to the detriment of their brands.

The original Golf GTI would not get made these days, it'd be laughed out of the board room.

If you want to build a downsized high performance car these days look no further than the Toyota Yaris GR, that's how you do the engineering right, unfortunately they lose money on every single one of course, the sweet spot lies somewhere in between the VRS and the GR.

GR Yaris 4x4, 257-268 bhp.

 

Yaris GR Sport, 1.5 3 cylinder hybrid  cvt auto 114 bhp.       Fun enough and frugal, but not to me mistaken for the GR Yaris.

 

VW Group did this one and that sorted them out for the Rallying and Polo's and Fabia.

Also the Polo WRC  2014. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 19 March, 20233 yr by toot

27 minutes ago, toot said:

GR Yaris 4x4, 257-268 bhp.

 

Yaris GR Sport, 1.5 3 cylinder hybrid  cvt auto 114 bhp.       Fun enough and frugal, but not to me mistaken for the GR Yars.

 

Who's going to be mistaken FFS...

You probably.   GR Yaris.  Big Boy. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 19 March, 20233 yr by toot

5 minutes ago, toot said:

You probably.   GR Yaris.  Big Boy. 

 

 

 

 

Not likely, I'm not a tartan rug, scatter cushion ditherer!

To be fair most of the issues can be fixed with the mechanical know how and determination and the correct tools , @Mickmartindid a full mechatronics overhaul and a timing chain replacement on his driveway, the hydraulic oil accumulator on the mechatronics fails by cracking on the thread, so a clever uprated thread insert and different accumulator were created, as for the op’s issue I would say swarf has built up on the gear selector magnets , causing it to struggle getting into gears/figuring out what gear it’s in 

To be fair most of the issues wouldn't be issues if manufacturers stopped the stupid Jesus features like DSG in the first place, my motorcycle has 125BHP and a six speed sequential gearbox capable of clutchless upshifts like most bikes do, god knows why stunningly average road car drivers imagine they need flappy paddles and as for twincharging, it's a solution looking for a problem!

2 hours ago, thomasaspin said:

To be fair most of the issues can be fixed with the mechanical know how and determination and the correct tools , @Mickmartindid a full mechatronics overhaul and a timing chain replacement on his driveway, the hydraulic oil accumulator on the mechatronics fails by cracking on the thread, so a clever uprated thread insert and different accumulator were created, as for the op’s issue I would say swarf has built up on the gear selector magnets , causing it to struggle getting into gears/figuring out what gear it’s in 

I’ll put that to the garage when it goes in at the end of March. When I’ve had to turn it off and restart it, it’s reversing !! 

Check the brake vacuum piping, start at the servo, look/ feel for splits at all ends/joints right up to the inlet manifold. There will be a one way plastic valve half way and the piping often splits there too. The hard pipe splits longitudinally from an end, of you can move/ rotate the pipe from the joint, it is splitand allowing air into the intake manifold, upsetting the petrol/air ratio.

This causes loss of power and stalling issues particularly when pressing the brake pedal which might go "hard" prematurely.

Gradients and accel/decel will rock the engine and the piping move, any splits open up.

 

As for windows ,check loom condition in the rubber gaitors between the doors and pillars, pull the gaitos back and inspect. Check all doors.

 

Both issues are inevitable with age.

2 hours ago, Badassfabia said:

I’ll put that to the garage when it goes in at the end of March. When I’ve had to turn it off and restart it, it’s reversing !! 

The last moments of my gearbox only Reverse would work, forwards there was nothing but grinding noises. The gearbox was failing slowly then it went suddenly, Gears were skipping D2 & D5 into D (flashing) there were no other errors on dash but was dangerous. Was a nightmare.. took over a week to sort using Lancs Auto Transmissions in Bury for a reconditioned mechatronics unit , and then replacement clutch with Motor Robs Garage Darwen. As mentioned in my build thread £2.6k . A brand new mechatronics unit alone is £2.5k from the dealer. I would have really wanted to fit a DQ250 instead of the DQ200 as Thomasspin has done but was more unknown territory and was desperate for car back...

ive just had a conversation with the garage.  it os a mechatronics issue and they have told me the piece will be 1.5k plus vat.  plus their work adds another 500 pounds.  ill have to suck this one up and pay.  2.5k and the car is worth about 3.5 he said if I went with we buy any car.  with the amount of mileage 117,000 more things may begin to go wrong. would you say yes?  ive just said go ahead and order th part which will take about a week to come.  They're busy so no cars still for 10 more days.

Brutal that , I really should start making a kit for this dq250 conversion it would be so much cheaper than that 

1 hour ago, thomasaspin said:

Brutal that , I really should start making a kit for this dq250 conversion it would be so much cheaper than that 

Do it

hello everyone,

 

thanks for your posts.  They phoned last week and said they'd decided to sent it off to be refurbed by a specialist company.  It is now done and im 1,440 quid lighter including labour too.  1,100 pounds less than expected so am pleased about that.  They're dropping it off today.  When they drove it away weeks ago it stopped on them and they said that was scary.  They should have been on my journey on the way home one evening in London, now that was hairy!  Apparently it comes with a lifetime guarantee.  Shame the other parts are likely to go in the next couple of years given its age.  Not too sure whether to keep now or sell.  This was the first time it had ever let me down.