Hi.

 

Am looking to buy our first Kodiaq and this ticks most of the boxes, but is slightly out of my budget (£20k). 

 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303135179408?onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&include-delivery-option=on&transmission=Automatic&exclude-writeoff-categories=on&price-to=27500&minimum-seats=7&body-type=MPV&body-type=SUV&sort=price-desc&make=SKODA&maximum-mileage=100000&keywords=panoramic&minimum-badge-engine-size=2.0&model=Kodiaq&postcode=gu71jt&year-from=2016&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&page=1&percentVehiclePriceDeposit=true

 

It's been on the market for a month by the looks of it, but £26k seems too high. Not sure on service history yet either, but grateful for people's thoughts if I could get it for, say, 23k. Anything in particular I should look out for? Cambelt / water pump may not have been done given the low mileage but it's > 5 years old now.

 

Thoughts welcome if any

 

Cheers

 

Will

Personally I would try and aim for <4 years old especially with a DSG box. It's sister car the Tarraco usually goes a bit cheaper 2nd hand, worth a look. 
The £26k price, may not be far off how much it cost new back in 2017 after the usual discounts, I'd feel a bit aggrieved to be paying that amount. 

Thanks. Will bear that in mind. I think I've discounted this one as the 2.0 TSI isn't very popular. Finding one <4 years for 20k will be a struggle though I think.

@w82 Where does the 2.0TSI not being very popular come from? 

11 hours ago, Theo5 said:

The £26k price, may not be far off how much it cost new back in 2017 after the usual discounts, I'd feel a bit aggrieved to be paying that amount.

 

If someone bought that new for anywhere near £26k, they got the best deal ever. Canton, tow bar, sunroof, full winter pack, family pack... looks like it had every option possible ticked (except area view!). List price would easily have been north of £35k, possibly closer to £37k if my mental maths is at all accurate.

 

Also, going off what I sold my 1.5 Edition for, £26k from a dealer sounds entirely reasonable given the continued inflated price of used cars. But as they say, there is always a deal to be done.

 

Edit: Ooops, that's not the tow bar release in the last picture, so maybe it doesn't have that. 🤦‍♂️

Edited 13 April, 20233 yr by Yogi-Bear

Yeah with the options it probably would have been more like 35-36k.  With a dealer discount of 20%, would have ended up costing around £29k back in 2017. Not saying £26k isn't good value today, but I would feel aggrieved at paying that much for a 2017 plate without any manufacturers warranty left on it.  
Looks like it's missing the interior LED pack as well, which I'm surprised by, unless it was missed in the advert. 

On 11/04/2023 at 11:56, w82 said:

Anything in particular I should look out for? Cambelt / water pump may not have been done given the low mileage but it's > 5 years old now.

 

I know little about the 2.0Tsi - I'm sure others will confirm or not, but I was under the impression a 2.0Tsi was chain driven. So if looking for a car around that age, that's one worry / bill you may not have to worry about.

 

 

 

13 hours ago, toot said:

@w82 Where does the 2.0TSI not being very popular come from? 

 

I'm sure the OP meant it's the least popular engine. If you go by Autotrader, roughly half of all Kodiaqs for sale are Petrol and of those, roughly 1 in 4 are 2.0tsi, an engine which has been available since launch.

 

OP - The irony is if you want a car at that money, you're going to have to buy something that's not popular. 

 

As someone said above, if you're looking at a car of that age and mileage then a Tarraco is much better value for money.

 

 

Edited 13 April, 20233 yr by kodiaqsportline

Thanks all. Really useful. I agree, a car 5 years old for £26k does worry/annoy me, but there's a lot in its favour. It is well optioned and has everything we want as a family. Plus FSH from main dealer(s). And it's being sold by an Approved Dealer so there's some protection, 12 month 'warranty' of sorts. Regardless, I won't and can't pay £26k for it, however low the mileage is, so we'll see if they're open to a deal or not.

 

Otherwise, agree, I'll have to reluctantly look at the Tarraco.

Remember, the price of the 2.0Tsi SEL Exec which is nearest new option to an Edition is now almost £43k BEFORE options which means that even if discounts are taken into account, it will attract a near £600 VED rate. So unfortunately for us, a £26k price tag may not be unreasonable in the current climate.

 

Tip:  Put the car registration in to a few car buying websites like 'WebuyAnyCar' and 'WeWantAnyCar' ( describe it accurately ), take the average and that's a good indication how much the dealer paid for it. Then add no more that £3000  ( which the dealer needs as a mark up to cover costs + profit ) and that's roughly what the forecourt price should be.  If the £26k price they're selling it for is around or below that figure then it's unlikely they'll budge. They may need to sell it rather than want to sell it, so a big discount could be available. A £3000 discount tho?  I'd be amazed if they did but there's no harm in asking.   

Thanks - really helpful! Roughly £22k from those two, and others I tried. Good to know the 3k markup

14 hours ago, w82 said:

Thanks all. Really useful. I agree, a car 5 years old for £26k does worry/annoy me, but there's a lot in its favour. It is well optioned and has everything we want as a family. Plus FSH from main dealer(s). And it's being sold by an Approved Dealer so there's some protection, 12 month 'warranty' of sorts. Regardless, I won't and can't pay £26k for it, however low the mileage is, so we'll see if they're open to a deal or not.

 

Otherwise, agree, I'll have to reluctantly look at the Tarraco.

I think I know where you're coming from on this. I think I'd baulk at spending £26K on a 5YO car. I don't care if that's what they cost or whatever. I'm not spending £26K on a 5YO car, period.

I'd also be looking at "cost to change" from your existing car, and very much seeing whether the £?K you're spending on the new vehicle gives you £?K worth of additional value in the new vehicle.

But that's looking at the issue logically and dispassionately.

 

You can also look at a car purchase from the perspective of "Oh my days! I love this car and I want it. I can afford it and I don't know if I'll find another used car in this colour/spec/condition."

That's more an emotionally driven decision.

 

There's no right or wrong way of doing it if you get exactly the car you want, but unless you change your car every couple of years, you're going to have to live with your decision for a while.

Personally, I have found buying a bargain car I am not 100% happy with less satisfying than paying too much for a car I really wanted. But that's me.

Ideally I like to get the right car at the right price, but we don't live in a perfect world.

Edited 14 April, 20233 yr by EnterName

On 13/04/2023 at 09:55, kodiaqsportline said:

I'm sure the OP meant it's the least popular engine. If you go by Autotrader, roughly half of all Kodiaqs for sale are Petrol and of those, roughly 1 in 4 are 2.0tsi, an engine which has been available since launch.

Here's the 2021 government data on registered Kodiaqs.

EDIT: It's old data, but for a used car purchase, not a problem. Latest data can be obtained here; https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/vehicle-licensing-statistics-data-files#download-data-files

Edited 14 April, 20233 yr by EnterName

They wouldn't budge a penny. Fair enough, but the salesman seemed mortally wounded by me even asking. Probably for the best. Going to test a 2019 1.5 Tsi this week and go from there. Thanks for everyone's thoughts, much appreciated.