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Mk3 (2016) gearing / idle engine speed.

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My new to me Mk3 appears to be operating differently to the way my Mk2 used to, is the normal behaviour for a Euro 6 diesel? It starts and ticks over @800RPM, select drive or reverse and this increases to 1,000RPM instantly?. Also the Mk2 (6 speed DSG) always got into 6th gear as soon as it could whereas the Mk3 seems to have taller ratios and never gets into 6th until its doing approx. 50mph whereas the the Mk2 would be in 6th around 35mph mark, both are 6 speed DSG's, so are the Mk3's enjoying a higher gear ratio now?

The RPM thing happens on the manual too, I've always assumed it's like an anti-stall feature.

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That is what I thought at first, but if you think about it more, is it? The diesels have plenty of bottom end grunt and I've known a DSG car to to stall? Yours is even a 190 with 40 more horses than mine so it should be OK. I was wandering if it's got something to with a being a Euro 6 engine as opposed to a Euro 5?

 

Another thing I have noticed is that the Xenon headlights do their little dance routine when you first switch them on and they react to the steering inputs when driving, but I don't see any evidence of them reacting to type of road, i.e., urban or highway at all. In my Mk2, when I pulled up behind another car at traffic lights etc, I could see the headlight beams returning to their straight ahead position from their urban wide beam mode. Does the Mk3 not have this feature or has mine got a problem in that dept.? 

TBH, I've never given it that much thought as to the actual why it does it. I'm actually running about 240 if DTUK figures are to be believed, that mated with a pedal box and it goes like the proverbial off a blanket 😁

 

You should see the lights centre when slowed down or stopped. I'll admit I had my car 9 months before I noticed this feature. 

Mk2's were engineered and built for driving regardless of emissions because VW Group could just cheat the test regime at their chosen facility.

Same through Euro 5 emissions.

For 2016 they had to get their act together because they were caught. Then they had to do SCR, & then for the WLTP it was all change again, get the results for the tests but if the cars run a bit crap then tough.

That then was and is an issue so they have had to work more on engine management.

They actually have the economy about right and emissions with Mk4 TDI's and just stuffed up with IT.

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1 hour ago, toot said:

Mk2's were engineered and built for driving regardless of emissions because VW Group could just cheat the test regime at their chosen facility.

Same through Euro 5 emissions.

For 2016 they had to get their act together because they were caught. Then they had to do SCR, & then for the WLTP it was all change again, get the results for the tests but if the cars run a bit crap then tough.

That then was and is an issue so they have had to work more on engine management.

They actually have the economy about right and emissions with Mk4 TDI's and just stuffed up with IT.

On my way home from Mansfield, I actually achieved 66.9 mpg, well I say achieved, I actually did more but my sons phone ran out of power so he was not able to capture it.

 

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@Graham ButcherI ran a 2016 2.0 TDI SCR DSG Alhambra for 3 years.  66.9 MPG Average was a common reading i got when using coasting mode.

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I had an average of 63.6 on our MKI PD140. I did used to do a 110 miles a day round trip commute on weekdays, so that was the reason. But obviously that average included short local trips at the weekend. 

10 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

That is what I thought at first, but if you think about it more, is it? The diesels have plenty of bottom end grunt and I've known a DSG car to to stall? Yours is even a 190 with 40 more horses than mine so it should be OK. I was wandering if it's got something to with a being a Euro 6 engine as opposed to a Euro 5?

 

Another thing I have noticed is that the Xenon headlights do their little dance routine when you first switch them on and they react to the steering inputs when driving, but I don't see any evidence of them reacting to type of road, i.e., urban or highway at all. In my Mk2, when I pulled up behind another car at traffic lights etc, I could see the headlight beams returning to their straight ahead position from their urban wide beam mode. Does the Mk3 not have this feature or has mine got a problem in that dept.? 

The 190 gets its extra power from more boost. The torque off idle (no boost) would surely be much the same?

I have a Mk III 2016 280tsi with Xenons, it’s not that noticeable but when I stop to reverse into the garage I see the lights returning from urban wide spread mode.

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1 hour ago, nicknorman said:

The 190 gets its extra power from more boost. The torque off idle (no boost) would surely be much the same?

I have a Mk III 2016 280tsi with Xenons, it’s not that noticeable but when I stop to reverse into the garage I see the lights returning from urban wide spread mode.

I've studied this a bit more tonight, start the car and it goes to 800rpm and idles nicely, slip into gear, still idles at 800, release parking brake, stays at 800, release footbrake, no throttle and it jumps to 1000rpm, footbrake on, returns to 800rpm, is that the normal behaviour for a mk3 ?

Yes, mine's always done the same.

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2 minutes ago, D402 said:

Yes, mine's always done the same.

Thank you, so it seems to be intentional then, I thought that it would have been the same as the others, so now I'm guessing that it must be part of the design of the Euro 6 diesels?

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