1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

Should owners who do not care, ignore DVLA Recalls or advice from Manufacturers be allowed to take their vehicles anyplace.

Car parks, multi-storey, underground, overground, wombling free.

Parking at Heathrow etc etc.

This is an issue, there are plenty that will not do the sensible thing.

Should Porsche / VW UK be acting more responsibly?

100% there is an issue, but that issue is there for all kinds of things, not just restricted to cars of any type, food and all kinds of things have recalls and they rely on people seeing the notices and then reading them etc, even down to Sainsburys own range of Taste the difference of chocolate bars which ave just been recalled with a warning not eat them as they may contain metal fragments and shards and cause harm if eaten.

Tough luck on anyone did eat them or did not see the recall notice.

Sainsbury's urgently recalls popular chocolate snack over safety fears - Essex Live

I will feel for those that ate them and were not aware of issues or recalls.

Or that set themselves or others on fire to get back on thread topic.

As for those that knew of issues or recalls and risk it for a biscuit, they are muppets and as long as it is just them that are harmed that is perfectly OK with me.

Just do not waste emergency services or NHS staff time.

Another fire at a battery recycling plant in Scotland.

No idea if it recycles BEV batteries.

EDIT.

Set up to Recycle EV Batteries from as far as the USA.

Edited 10 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere

Last time I recall the fire was inside the building? This time it appears to be outside, and I wonder if it started in one of the little blue plastic barrels that they seem to transport used batteries in. But boy, considering that these batteries have been disposed of because they no longer hold an effective charge, just imagine how much worse that would be if those batteries were all fully usable, all of that energy has to go somewhere?

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Are the batteries or the cells from batteries actually all without effective charge?

Can they not be damaged battery packs with some cells discharged or faulty.

Were batteries being fired into the air or was it cells?

Was the plant back in operation having gained a licence again or were there batteries or cells being stored ready to be recycled?

6 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

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Are the batteries or the cells from batteries actually all without effective charge?

Can they not be damaged battery packs with some cells discharged or faulty.

Were batteries being fired into the air or was it cells?

Was the plant back in operation having gained a licence again or were there batteries or cells being stored ready to be recycled?

Yes of course there may be a few, but it is far more likely to be batteries that users have deemed beyond further actual use, and not all of them will be Lithium either, many if not most are more likely to be Nickel-metal hydride from council recycle centres.

Edited 10 April, 20251 yr by Graham Butcher

Exactly. Mony a mickle maks a muckle. Every little thing counts.

So Battery Recycling facilities are required.

Maybe best far from the population.

Maybe out near marshland or old industrial sites laying unused.

Maybe where there is to be a Universal Resort. Maybe near the most populated city in the UK with the high amount of EV,s and maybe other batteries which need recycling in the UK.

Edited 10 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere

Rev I M Jolly put this up 5 hours ago on youtube.

It is not 'a terrible video'. It is and excellent video of a terrible event.

The UK Media did report the incident. So he is getting the story out 12 hours later than the press.

Edited 14 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere

9 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Rev I M Jolly put this up 5 hours ago on youtube.

It is not 'a terrible video'. It is and excellent video of a terrible event.

The UK Media did report the incident. So he is getting the story out 12 hours later than the press.

Well, first and foremost, how sure are we that it was a hybrid? The video that I watched showed the car when it was just smoking, and it seemed to be coming from the engine compartment, so I thought it was a petrol leak that had caught fire. Yes, you did read that right, I doubt that it was anything to do with the traction battery (assuming it was a hybrid even), I always like to be fair in my assessment of these situations and the fire did not IMO exhibit the normal traits of an EV fire.

The Registration Number and DVLA Data Base is a good start to it being a 1.5 TSI PHEV.

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Could it be a MHEV, not a PHEV?

The Seat Cupra on fire in Dundee at the weekend took one hose reel to extinguish it in just a few minutes,

so i suppose just yet another ICE vehicle set alight in the area where there have been several.

Edited 14 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere

I couldn't find anything that actually showed the licence plate details, all the photos appeared to be blanked out.

I just went by the Registration Number MYGUY gave out (Spoke) in his video. It was 2nd hand news from him.

But I couldn't find any evidence to support what he was saying, and as you will see in the longest video that I could find of the fire, the reg has been blanked out for some reason. I'd have expected if it was a EV that the media would have been all over it like a rash, something about this does not feel right to me.

Edited 14 April, 20251 yr by Graham Butcher

If using EV to mean Electrified Vehicle, but that is not a BEV.

There are so many Mild Hybrids now and also PHEV,s.

Dangerous things. And a brand new one going up, scary but just goes to show. Wait for the facts from 1st hand reports, the investigators.

Get you on the road in no time. & maybe on the back of a salvage truck.

Edited 14 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere

On 10/04/2025 at 08:45, Ootohere said:

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Are the batteries or the cells from batteries actually all without effective charge?

Can they not be damaged battery packs with some cells discharged or faulty.

Were batteries being fired into the air or was it cells?

Was the plant back in operation having gained a licence again or were there batteries or cells being stored ready to be recycled?

To make that Fenix fire even worse, the site has been dormant since the last fire, back in April last year when the entire building was totally destroyed and the company lost their licence to carry on operating the battery recycling operation, the waste batteries which are stored in blue barrels, 1 year later decided to self ignite and that fire was the result. Just shows how dangerous these batteries really are.

Those batteries have been since last year and quite possibly before that even and have been allowed to be kept outside, not recommended apparently, but also the UK Government really should have organised a proper clean up and safe removal of batteries/cells from the site and had them properly recycled well before now.

Edited 15 April, 20251 yr by Graham Butcher

Scotland is devolved it has nothing to do with the UK government. It is the Government for Scotland, then SEPA not Defra. Health and Safety Executive Scotland and the Scottish Fire and Rescue. The local Authority should have had an enforcement or the Government Agency. The terms of the licence was no storage over 6 months. Enforcement is an issue with owners not cooperating. As happened with mines that were not cleaned up and caused pollution. Or even nuclear waste sitting many many years in various locations around Scotland. PS. A Battery Storage facility planning last year got tied up because of this premises which had the fire. People scared about a totally different type of facility.

Edited 15 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere

58 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Scotland is devolved it has nothing to do with the UK government. It is the Government for Scotland, then SEPA not Defra. Health and Safety Executive Scotland and the Scottish Fire and Rescue. The local Authority should have had an enforcement or the Government Agency. The terms of the licence was no storage over 6 months. Enforcement is an issue with owners not cooperating. As happened with mines that were not cleaned up and caused pollution. Or even nuclear waste sitting many many years in various locations around Scotland. PS. A Battery Storage facility planning last year got tied up because of this premises which had the fire. People scared about a totally different type of facility.

OK, so SEPA need a swift kick in you know where to wake them up to the dangers posed, that fire in the video was horrific.

It is the SEPA Offices Stirling that i charge my car at.

Big offices full of very few people as far as i can see, maybe up to a dozen EV,s sitting about sometimes.

They are maybe all out and about doing stuff, but funnily knowing what vehicles they have i spot very them very very seldom.

Edited 15 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere

Major EV Fire Breaks Out Aboard Ro/Ro at Zeebrugge

The blaze started on the third deck, which contained 60 electric vehicles and 40 conventional cars.

https://maritime-executive.com/article/major-ev-fire-breaks-out-aboard-ro-ro-at-zeebrugge

Edited 17 April, 20251 yr by Stonekeeper

@Graham Butcher

This BYD electric bus battery location picture may interest you for future reference

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Edited 2 May, 20251 yr by Ootohere

3 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

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Something that I reported a while ago but when certain members couldn't take my word without proof, and the document had been taken off the HOC website, it was deemed to be not true. I see that they have now made it appear that is new news, and is on other sites as well, not just Vloggers.

I assume now that we might also get landlords also publishing bans on EV parking in underground lists beneath residential blocks, which I also reported at the time because I have friends living in such places and they have been told not to park such cars in their lots, but never mind, just shoot the messenger eh? 🤔

Edited 2 May, 20251 yr by Graham Butcher

@Graham Butcher You posted about it and it hadn't happened in 2024.

It was not true when you reported it.

Edited 2 May, 20251 yr by Ootohere

6 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

@Graham Butcher You posted about it and it hadn't happened in 2024.

It was not true when you reported it.

But it was true, I read the report but didn't download it and when I went back to find it to prove to the naa sayers, it had been taken down, so I presume it was because it sent the wrong message and as often happens when they publish negative things, they do so quietly, and dress it up, when there are other bigger stories catching the headlines, hence it has just come to light, and made to look like new news, either way, it still says one rule for us, another for you.

Edited 2 May, 20251 yr by Graham Butcher

You did read the report. We read the report, you were challenged as to where there was a ban.

You could not find it because there was not one.