1 hour ago, Tell said:

You are only suppose to be a member if you know what you are doing to test out new builds. One of the complaints is that Microsoft has cut its testing staff and relies on the Insider programme as a cheap alternative. The issues 24h2 were identified by people on the Insider programme and ignored. Not making the best use of the programme. I didnt bother. I could not risk loosing the PC I used for business, so whilst I joined the programme I never installed any builds.

I just joined to see what it was and then found out you cant Unjoin or revert back or you lose everything So until death do us part and after my oncology report today may be sooner than later LOL

7 hours ago, Tell said:

But the main page is here for latest mib3 navigation file release:

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/513799-mib3-map-updates-202406/

Poor old @MartiniB does all the work but people try and reinvent the wheel. So this one is off topic 😉. You get this on the SeatCupra board. There is an area but think the files are specific to the model. Then you get duplication.

The main index of the files is here:

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/forum/7-audio-electronics-and-security/

The question I seem to recall is why the maps wont update if on connected services. The importance of the yyyy.dd and not the file name. The offline maps can't better the connected services maps if they have been distributed on time. 2025.05 on file did come out before the connected services got it on some units.

If you give up connected services then it may take 6-12 months before the offline maps catch up. You look at @MartiniB files since he's the resident Guru on sniffing them out. Board members pass any onto him where his sniffing out algorithms miss them out. As said Vag brands can get tardi at distributing these files. Sometimes Skoda is a head, VW or Seat. Sometimes one of the brands misses out a release as Skoda did in the past and became six months behind VW on the mib2 standard for three years or so. Skoda at the minute is ahead in general on all the files.

On that very first question the YYYY.MM may change but those with LED usbs say it continues to flash which means it hasn't completed. My deduction is dont pull the USB straight out if you dont have a LED one. The maps are segmented into areas for online update. Its likely that when the YYYY.MM changes its updated just your local zone, like South England etc. The structure of the file is designed for connect services where it pulls back what it requires. Leave the USB in longer and it actually completes in total. Why people like the USBs which have a LED on them.

Look at the map version before you pull the Stick out then

1 minute ago, Exkiwi said:

Look at the map version before you pull the Stick out then

1 minute ago, Exkiwi said:

Look at the map version before you pull the Stick out then

The point is, those that use a USB stick with a LED activity light see data activity on the stick after the map version has changed on the screen. Thus they dont pull the stick out till that's finished.

You live in Australia with relatively small map. It probably isnt segmented. Europe is. The map file structure is designed for connect services and will update as required as you change the segmentation. Thus what I reckon people are seeing with LED USBs is the rest of the map outside their local zone still being read in.

No LED on the USB leave it in a bit longer. Say a couple of hours for Europe. For Australia / NZ you probably dont need to be so careful. You can eyeball the files and count the zones. I did once. Compare.

17 minutes ago, Exkiwi said:

Look at the map version before you pull the Stick out then

The point is, those that use a USB stick with a LED activity light see data activity on the stick after the map version has changed on the screen. Thus they dont pull the stick out till that's finished.

You live in Australia with relatively small map. It probably isnt segmented. Europe is. The map file structure is designed for connect services and will update as required as you change the segmentation. Thus what I reckon people are seeing with LED USBs is the rest of the map outside their local zone still being read in.

No LED on the USB leave it in a bit longer. Say a couple of hours for Europe. For Australia / NZ you probably dont need to be so careful. You can eyeball the files and count the zones. I did once. Compare.

Would it be unreasonable to think that the "Navigation database" in "Menu > Settings > System Information" will only be changed when the update process has completed?

Given the size of the maps database (whole of West Europe, I believe?) it doesn't seem to have had long enough to update everything (time-wise or, probably more importantly time-ignition-switched-on-wise) but the Navigation database has changed since yesterday from 23.12 to 25.6 so I'm hoping the task has been completed & I can safely remove the flash drive?

13 minutes ago, IanPerry316 said:

Would it be unreasonable to think that the "Navigation database" in "Menu > Settings > System Information" will only be changed when the update process has completed?

Given the size of the maps database (whole of West Europe, I believe?) it doesn't seem to have had long enough to update everything (time-wise or, probably more importantly time-ignition-switched-on-wise) but the Navigation database has changed since yesterday from 23.12 to 25.6 so I'm hoping the task has been completed & I can safely remove the flash drive?

Probably. Reckon this is the ambiguity. Leave it in for a few more days of driving about. The LED USB people have the edge on this one.

Nice that we have no certain way of knowing if/when what we have done has actually had the desired effect !

Hello, from the instructions for updating MIB3:

INSTALLATION

Insert the USB Flash Disc into the proper connector in the front part of the car.

The vehicle uses the data on the USB disc while driving to update the

required map regions. For proper updating, we recommend to leave the

USB Flash Disc plugged into the vehicle connector each time you drive.

However, this was already mentioned here at the beginning of the topic.

Link: https://updateportal.skoda-auto.com/Download/Map-updates-mib3.pdf

Edited 19 August, 202519 Aug by kama2

kama2

So we leave the flash drive plugged in forever??????

23 minutes ago, IanPerry316 said:

kama2

So we leave the flash drive plugged in forever??????

I myself purchased a subscription, since I don’t like to drive with a USB plugged in all the time, but I also purchased this option (just in case), the compartment closes and the USB flash drive is not visible:

In both cases, the maps are updated only for the region where the car is moving, it is as it is.

Edited 19 August, 202519 Aug by kama2

I've got a couple of adaptors similar to this - one that projects the flash drive towards the front of the car & one that projects it sideways.

I have a flash drive with a collection (approx 1500 albums) of music and both adaptors can be in situ without getting in the way of each other.

Both adaptors, with the flash drives inserted, sit out of sight under the cover.

Well I do my updates on a 256GB USB C stick which has 1200 music tracks on it. I download the map from the portal to my computer, UNRAR it to a HDD and then copy the CONTENTS of the extracted folder to the root of the USB stick. Chuck it in the front USB slot, wait for an hour Check the map version has changed and take it in and delete all the map files and put it back in the car. Also if you have to turn the car off while it is updating it will just continue when you restart. Been doing that for years. Also swap between Skoda and VW maps depending on which gets it out first . Same **** different bucket.

3 hours ago, kama2 said:

I myself purchased a subscription, since I don’t like to drive with a USB plugged in all the time, but I also purchased this option (just in case), the compartment closes and the USB flash drive is not visible:

In both cases, the maps are updated only for the region where the car is moving, it is as it is.

Indeed you frig it to download all the fragments on route with connected services by putting a destination in to that far off place... like Russia or somewhere. That starts the connected services updating all the fragments on route.

For usb without connect services it was Skoda people on this board as I recall that pointed out with LED it still had activity going on after it displayed it had done it as far the update showing on the screen. Thus they said they leave it in till all fashing stops. You practical Skoda drivers with flashing LED USBs in the know.

I reckon it just updates your location first then if you pull it out you dont get the rest. Why when you read the pdfs its ambiguous.

Anyhow youd just leave it in for a couple of hours driving if you had a LED less one. You only update the maps offline twice a year. Given the low cost of USBs you might as well just buy one with a LED and be done with it.

Some hubs with USB C also have those LEDs on them which you could try if you had a spare one. Second alternative if you had such a device. Skoda make do approach.

Anyhow that's why the LED activity ones are preferred.

Footnote. With a LED USB you'd do the frig and watch to see what the LED did. Was it downloading all the zones to Russia?. Task for someone with a LED USB. That answers the question of whether it mimics connect services with the USB in or whether eventually it downloads the whole lot.

Edited 19 August, 202519 Aug by Tell

Used the FDM download manager and it successfully downloaded the whole zip file at the first attempt.

The log file shows it suffered many interruptions which would have stopped the download before with Google Chrome but the download manager coped with these and produced the whole file.

9 minutes ago, RodDuggan said:

Used the FDM download manager and it successfully downloaded the whole zip file at the first attempt.

The log file shows it suffered many interruptions which would have stopped the download before with Google Chrome but the download manager coped with these and produced the whole file.

I got the Turbo Manager with Firefox installed but have got that 900Mbs connection so not a lot of buffering between here and wherever their servers are. That manager I got recommend by the youngsters at the time I had terrible rural broadband on an aerial system. The providers had the aeriels mounted on church roofs bounced around between houses... and down valleys by line of sight🤫. Taking government grant for a system held together by sticky plaster, all that changed when fibre to the property arrived. It was 2Mbs or patchy rural broadband. Had the latter first of all. Country living.

Generally then these downloads were better when Europe had gone to bed. Doesn't make any difference now. Ofcourse the quicker you get it over the less chance of a wobble on their servers.