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Hey all, been away for a while as I’ve been over on the Yeti page which has been pretty much faultless for 6 years barring 2 front abs sensors. 
 

today I got bored and popped down to the local Skoda dealer for a look around and started looking around Octy estates (3). Salesman said he had one coming in a few days from another site that was closer to my budget (buying outright plus px). Then mentioned it was a 1.0 3 pot? I didn’t know this was an octy engine thought it was only in Fabia but everyday is a learning day.

 

so to my question.  He only had 1 other octy estate 1.0 on site but it was in the body shop for PDR so I couldn’t road test that. He’s going to call when the car is on site in a few days. But, trusted people of briskoda.  What’s the 3 pot like?  Will it lug a heavy estate body?  I like out in the sticks so overtaking tractors etc is a regular thing.  I currently have a 1.2 yeti dsg which isn’t too bad at overtaking as long as it’s in “sport” and preplanned, thought out and a landing strip of clear space. Is the 3 pot comparable to the earlier 1.2’s?  My other mk1 octy’s were 1.6’s and although not sporty in anyway managed these pretty well if your not scared of using the full rev range.

 

thanks all

The 1.0 tsi is not a rocket, but it's not slow. I also found it to be very economical engine using e10 within my previous Scala 1.0tsi dsg. What I did find with the 1.0tsi mated to the dsg, it was a little slow to engage dsg on take off, bit of a lag, around a second, but something I adapted my driving style, too. So it's probably better mated up to a manual box. I don't have that issue with my current 1.5tsi act dsg estate.

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Funny you say that I have similar with the dog in the yeti but just got used to it over the years.  Watched a few reviews about the 1.0 and spoke to a friend who has a golf with same engine and he enjoys it but it’s all city driving. Thanks for reply though. Kinda easing my worries a little. Hopefully see the car soon and able to test it. Could be the new addition. 

The Octavia 1.0tsi is actually not that heavy compared to most direct competitors, I can only think of the slightly smaller Peugeot 308 estate being lighter.

Acceleration times to 100kph are supposedly a fraction under 10 seconds, which is pretty respectable for a 'lawn mower' sized engine but expect performance to be noticeably compromised when loaded.

The turbo is more tuned for low end torque but I thought the engine revved more easily and smoothly than I expected from a 3 pot, though not as turbine smooth as the larger 4 pots.

There should be no problem with motorways, or the hills :) in your area. If you lived in a hilly area a bit more capacity would be welcome.

Consumption can be outstandingly good when driven sensibly, or just reasonable with a heavier right foot.

Performance and especially economy should be noticeably better than your 1.2 Yeti imo due to less weight and better aero.

 

 

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They are good engines.  My other half owned a 1.0tsi Octavia and it went very well.  We even have the same engine in our Golf Match 1.0TSI Estate manual.  They are really good engines.  Long runs will return you 70mpg; Short runs about 50-60mpg.  Don't expect anything in terms of performance, but it will get up to speed reasonably quickly and sit on the fast roads all day if you want it to.  Bumbling around town is also easy.  Expect to use the gearbox and drop it down a cog when it gets hilly.

 

Avoid the 1.0tsi engine with a DQ200 box; engine is fine, but the gearbox will make the car labour and makes it an unpleasant experience.  Fuel economy will also be poorer on a DSG gearbox.

I had a 1.0 litre Octavia saloon.  I genuinely think it was the best car I ever owned.  Fast enough for me and would cruise at 70mph all day long.  I swapped it in January for a 1.0 litre Karoq which is a heavier car.  Again no problems with the engine but I am not a boy racer.

19 hours ago, Mikek3111 said:

Funny you say that I have similar with the dog in the yeti but just got used to it over the years.  Watched a few reviews about the 1.0 and spoke to a friend who has a golf with same engine and he enjoys it but it’s all city driving. Thanks for reply though. Kinda easing my worries a little. Hopefully see the car soon and able to test it. Could be the new addition. 

My mate owned an Up GTI 1.0tsi manual, the engine seemed impressive, although the car was a bit lighter.

Regarding my dsg (dq200), it's my second mated to the 1.5tsi engine, the both auto boxes have performed faultlessly, always smooth & my current Octavia has now covered 66k now.  

The start and stop system has always been a bit of a pain within all my vag cars, so I tend to switch it off, whether it be the 1.0tsi or the 1.5ti engines. 

I also had an ongoing boot leak into my previous Octavia (not this one), so I'd take out the spare wheel & if it's at all wet or feels sticky under it, leave it well alone. 

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4 hours ago, Phoenixboy said:

My mate owned an Up GTI 1.0tsi manual, the engine seemed impressive, although the car was a bit lighter.

Regarding my dsg (dq200), it's my second mated to the 1.5tsi engine, the both auto boxes have performed faultlessly, always smooth & my current Octavia has now covered 66k now.  

The start and stop system has always been a bit of a pain within all my vag cars, so I tend to switch it off, whether it be the 1.0tsi or the 1.5ti engines. 

I also had an ongoing boot leak into my previous Octavia (not this one), so I'd take out the spare wheel & if it's at all wet or feels sticky under it, leave it well alone. 

IIRC I think my mk2 Octavia had the issue with the leaky boot, there was a fix on here like sealing something inside the inner wing? Never happened again after that. Seems a common thing on the octy’s unless there’s a new issue causing leaky boots that you refer too?

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Thanks all for replies.  Still waiting for the car to arrive.  Managed to see an identical copy of the car at Skoda today. Could have been the one that was in the body shop today. Salesman gave me the keys and allowed me to look around but couldn’t drive it as it was already sold and awaiting collection.  Hopefully it will be on site late this week early next.  I’ll let you all know how it goes. Don’t know if I mentioned before but it’s in energy blue.  Never seen the colour in person before only in pics and have to say I don’t hate it, which is weird for a free paint that some people seem to be offended by 😂

13 hours ago, Mikek3111 said:

IIRC I think my mk2 Octavia had the issue with the leaky boot, there was a fix on here like sealing something inside the inner wing? Never happened again after that. Seems a common thing on the octy’s unless there’s a new issue causing leaky boots that you refer too?

I stripped everything out of my boot, I could see where the water was coming in from, but unable to stop it, as it was leaking in from a seam lower down, tracking in from somewhere else. I didn't really want to take the rear bumper off to investigate further. Also took the rear light clusters off, too. 

Then moved onto an estate, as I needed the extra room. 

Now having an intermittent issue with the display screen, turning off an on itself. 

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2 hours ago, Phoenixboy said:

I stripped everything out of my boot, I could see where the water was coming in from, but unable to stop it, as it was leaking in from a seam lower down, tracking in from somewhere else. I didn't really want to take the rear bumper off to investigate further. Also took the rear light clusters off, too. 

Then moved onto an estate, as I needed the extra room. 

Now having an intermittent issue with the display screen, turning off an on itself. 

It’s all part of the fun 😂 tbh today I’ve been out and test drove a Honda CRV, Civic estate, mondeo estate and Fabia estate and each of them had good points and bad points but while talking to the wife each car even she was comparing them to Octavia estate and we keep heading back in that direction. For the price point it offers so much more for the money than all the others despite 2 of them being nearly 2k cheaper. So unless the drive when the car eventually arrives on site is horrendous I think it’s the route we are taking. 
 

Are all the mk3’s stop/start?  I know it has push button start but it’s not listed in spec as stop start.  Has anyone found a way to code this out yet if so?

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1 hour ago, Mikek3111 said:

It’s all part of the fun 😂 tbh today I’ve been out and test drove a Honda CRV, Civic estate, mondeo estate and Fabia estate and each of them had good points and bad points but while talking to the wife each car even she was comparing them to Octavia estate and we keep heading back in that direction. For the price point it offers so much more for the money than all the others despite 2 of them being nearly 2k cheaper. So unless the drive when the car eventually arrives on site is horrendous I think it’s the route we are taking. 
 

Are all the mk3’s stop/start?  I know it has push button start but it’s not listed in spec as stop start.  Has anyone found a way to code this out yet if so?

Mine is stop and start, I'd presume the rest are now, just a button to press to disable it. Mine being the SE spec, it also has a key being on an 19 plate. I purposely picked a lower spec car for less gizmos & smaller wheels. Load space is great, also like the fact you can flip the rear seats down from the boot area, too. Rear seats don't fully fold flat, though, but not far off. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Phoenixboy said:

Mine is stop and start, I'd presume the rest are now, just a button to press to disable it. Mine being the SE spec, it also has a key being on an 19 plate. I purposely picked a lower spec car for less gizmos & smaller wheels. Load space is great, also like the fact you can flip the rear seats down from the boot area, too. Rear seats don't fully fold flat, though, but not far off. 

 

I noticed the flip down seat lever, not too worried about them not folding flat, rarely carry loads that the boot couldn’t handle and they aren’t completely flat in the yeti either. I think the one we are waiting for is a se tech so had a start button, auto tailgate, (the kids liked that part) but also on a 19 plate

1 hour ago, Mikek3111 said:

I noticed the flip down seat lever, not too worried about them not folding flat, rarely carry loads that the boot couldn’t handle and they aren’t completely flat in the yeti either. I think the one we are waiting for is a se tech so had a start button, auto tailgate, (the kids liked that part) but also on a 19 plate

Auto tailgate sounds good, never had that luxury😂12v boot power socket good, too. Estate's are so much more practical, my first in over 35 years of driving. The 1.0tsi is surprisingly peppy, doesn't feel underpowered, within my opinion. 

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It will be only my second estate in 27 years. I had a 2000 Astra estate years ago. After taking out the 1.6 and fitting the 2.0 turbo it was so much fun to drive. But once we moved from London it was so thirsty it needed changing. I live around 90 miles from my parents and the Astra would drink the best part of a full tank each way 🙈

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I’ve owned a few mondeos, mainly mk1 pre and post facelift, and I have to say although the mondeo still ranks as one of the nicest cars I’ve owned to drive, the Octavia’s dwarf them in cabin space.  
The Octavia’s and mondeo’s I’ve owned have all been hatchbacks and from what I remember of the mondeo boot they may have been similar in size, but Octavia has so much more drivers leg room and rear leg room.  Once the wife said we needed an estate in my head it was mondeo vs Octavia. But having recently driven a mondeo estate, although in my mind they are arguably the better looking car, the newer mondeos aren’t as fun or comfortable to drive as the earlier ones. I found the drive to be fairly numb and although the Octavia 1.0 probably isn’t much more or less exciting to drive, the main reason for the change in car is we need more rear leg room and more boot space than the yeti offers and the Octavia offers it in spades.  If it wasn’t for that I wouldn’t change cars. 
 

we’ve owned the yeti 6 years and when we bought it the kids were in car seats. Now they are teenagers they are getting cramped.  Add a German Shepherd into the road trips and unfortunately the Yeti just won’t cut it even with a roof box 🙁

This is from my 10 year old 1.4tsi manual before I topped up before local fuel prices go up by 20%.

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Trip distance since last refuelled.

310 km by my wife over a couple of weeks and the last 63km by me (four separate journeys on one day because I left my phone behind on the first trip) were all urban. My stint averaging 5l/100 at 30kph average speed accounts for the high projected (and unlikely to achieve) range on remaining fuel. 

I would expect a 1.0tsi manual to be capable of improving on consumption of a 1.4tsi in similar conditions.

You will note it is winter here 😞 .

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Well, road tested the car today. Have to say I was pleasantly surprised with the 1.0.  Once moving it smoothed out nicely and was surprisingly nippy. A little bit of lag on roundabouts or exiting corners etc but I’m sure that’s something you would adjust your driving style too.  Liked the car overall and sales manager couldn’t have been any more helpful, however, I’m not sure it’s the right car for us.  I think I would miss my dsg too much and not sure we really need an estate tbh, I think we could do just as well with a hatch. Unfortunately, our dealer didn’t have an auto hatch on site, and our price range probably isn’t ideal at the min either, so the Yeti may stay a while longer while we search for either a 1.5 dsg or a diesel one. (Unless a nice used Passat comes along within budget lol). 
 

thanks all for the advice given, I think it was useful going in with a positive expectation rather than a inquisitive one. Is a really good engine for a manual box but I think (sure one of you also agreed) that the dsg mated to a 1.0 may be a bit too sluggish and cause it to labour the engine considering the dsg wants to be in 7th gear for every speed 😂

11 hours ago, Mikek3111 said:

Well, road tested the car today. Have to say I was pleasantly surprised with the 1.0.  Once moving it smoothed out nicely and was surprisingly nippy. A little bit of lag on roundabouts or exiting corners etc but I’m sure that’s something you would adjust your driving style too.  Liked the car overall and sales manager couldn’t have been any more helpful, however, I’m not sure it’s the right car for us.  I think I would miss my dsg too much and not sure we really need an estate tbh, I think we could do just as well with a hatch. Unfortunately, our dealer didn’t have an auto hatch on site, and our price range probably isn’t ideal at the min either, so the Yeti may stay a while longer while we search for either a 1.5 dsg or a diesel one. (Unless a nice used Passat comes along within budget lol). 
 

thanks all for the advice given, I think it was useful going in with a positive expectation rather than a inquisitive one. Is a really good engine for a manual box but I think (sure one of you also agreed) that the dsg mated to a 1.0 may be a bit too sluggish and cause it to labour the engine considering the dsg wants to be in 7th gear for every speed 😂

 

 

Just for thought.

 

We've had two 1.2TSi Yeti DSG's. 1.2TSi Octavia DSG's and a Fabia 1.2TSi DSG.   Currently we have a 1.5TSi Karoq and 1.0TSi Fabia both DSG.  What I will say is the newer 1.0 and 1.5Tsi engines and DQ200 DSG seem very well mapped, more responsive and smoother than the 1.2TSi.

I have driven a 1.0TSi DSG Octavia and the performance and smoothness is certainly a marked improvement on a 1.2TSi DSG Yeti.  The Octavia is lighter, has far better aerodynamics, the 1.0 has more torque and the DSG is better mapped.

I wouldn't give up your search yet but the 1.5 is certainly a major step up if you go for one of those.

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On 04/07/2024 at 12:53, logiclee said:

 

 

Just for thought.

 

We've had two 1.2TSi Yeti DSG's. 1.2TSi Octavia DSG's and a Fabia 1.2TSi DSG.   Currently we have a 1.5TSi Karoq and 1.0TSi Fabia both DSG.  What I will say is the newer 1.0 and 1.5Tsi engines and DQ200 DSG seem very well mapped, more responsive and smoother than the 1.2TSi.

I have driven a 1.0TSi DSG Octavia and the performance and smoothness is certainly a marked improvement on a 1.2TSi DSG Yeti.  The Octavia is lighter, has far better aerodynamics, the 1.0 has more torque and the DSG is better mapped.

I wouldn't give up your search yet but the 1.5 is certainly a major step up if you go for one of those.

So to be honest we have spent the last 2 weeks or so out pretty much every day looking at different cars. Apart from the Octavia, most cars we have looked at have about the same or less rear leg room than the Yeti provides.  We’ve looked at golf, focus, Astra, cmax, qashqui, civic ,crv, Tiguan, and to be honest the yeti seems to have better space than most of them.  Issue with Octavia’s and passats are very few in our price range in our area.  After another failed trip to another dealership today I was dreading the fact that SWMBO was looking at a Zafira.  
short of cutting my legs off I was running out of ideas to avoid a 7 seater so I started playing around with my seating position and steering wheel position.

instead of having the seat low and forward to generate space I tried back and up.  Although it now feels like I’m driving on stilts or a transit van, it surprisingly created an extra inch or so in rear leg room to where even she could sit behind me with a little space to spare.

hopefully, it’s enough to stop the kids complaining about space and the Yeti is here to stay.

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Going to test drive a 1.2tsi rapid black edition tomorrow. Looks like a car swap may be on the cards again 🫣

6 hours ago, Mikek3111 said:

Going to test drive a 1.2tsi rapid black edition tomorrow. Looks like a car swap may be on the cards again 🫣

Not even sat in a Rapid but I am a little surprised it is thought to offer more legroom than a Yeti.

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8 hours ago, Gerrycan said:

Not even sat in a Rapid but I am a little surprised it is thought to offer more legroom than a Yeti.

Yeah we were pretty shocked too. We had seen the car but it had only just arrived and not even been washed, so wasn’t really ready for a test drive. However, it was the first time either of us had been in a rapid and were both surprised the amount of space in the rapid (hatch not a space back).  I’d say it probably comparable to our old mk2 Octavia in terms of leg room and boot space, if anything, maybe slightly narrower and slightly lower interior quality. I’m 6’2 and with the drivers seat adjusted for me, I could sit behind me, which I cannot in the yeti. It has an admunsen but no auto lights or wipers but that’s not a deal breaker for me.  
like to see it cleaned and polished up as it’s black and they can looking a little tatty when they are dirty. Give it a spin and see how we go. 

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