Hi all. Just interested in some shared experiences if possible. 
My 272 has got to be the quickest car to get the water temp to 90 that I have ever seen. Like literally 5 minutes and it’s already there. Admittedly we’ve had some high temps recently so the ambient start point hasn’t been too low, but even so, this car just seems to get to temp rapid. 
Is this the same with other S3 owners? 
For context, I’ve just given back a 2021 lease Formentor 310 after 3 years, same engine / drive etc and that took far longer to get to 90degrees than my Superb. 
 

So I guess I’m looking for confirmation or otherwise that this is normal. 
 

cheers 

The gauge is programmed to get to 90 by a real 77 and stay there until a real 117, only viewing the data blocks in the ECU will tell the truth

Cheers. So how quickly does your S3 get to 77 then? 🤣🤣

Modern engines are like that, gone are the day of the old cast iron blocks. I remember my diesel uses to take about 20 minutes to get to 90.

3 hours ago, Crasher said:

The gauge is programmed to get to 90 by a real 77 and stay there until a real 117, only viewing the data blocks in the ECU will tell the truth

 

is it possible to change some coding to have the real value displayed on the instrument cluster ?

 

Same here in this weather. Upto 70 within a mile and 90 1/4 mile later. At 0c it’s around 2.5 miles to get to 90. 

1 hour ago, numskull said:

Same here in this weather. Upto 70 within a mile and 90 1/4 mile later. At 0c it’s around 2.5 miles to get to 90. 

Thanks pal. Good to know others have the same experience as I’m having. 👍🏼 

I don't know if 272 or 280 TSI have the same coolant pump as TDI engines, but the latter ones have specific pumps.

This kind of coolant pump is 'disabled' at the engine start to reduce the time needed for the engine to reach its optimum operating temperature. Then the water pump is activated to operate normally.

 

But the drawback of such a technology is that several TDI have temperature issues with coolant pump stuck or being lazy to reactivate... I did have to replace mine at 62000km... 🙄

It's a known issue from Skoda.

Edited 29 June, 20241 yr by Bap33

I swapped my 2016 280tsi (average time to get warm air from the heater) to a 2023 280tsi. The latter warms up / gives warm air from the heater much quicker. This is due to the electric auxiliary heater which, as far as I can tell, is a roughly 1kw electric heater somewhere in the system that warms the coolant quickly. And presumably the high load on the alternator also makes the engine work harder / heats quicker.
As mentioned, the temperature gauge reaches “normal” before it actually gets there. It is interesting to look at the oil temperature, which takes a lot longer to come “off the stops” at 50C.

@nicknorman Not sure are you talking about the electric heater behind the pedals but AFAIK it’s fitted only on TDIs when engine and outside temps are low.

One thing to note is it's the oil temp you want to warm up rather than the coolant. Might get to 90 on the coolant but oil temps could still be low.

My 2016 280 gets to water temp pretty quick (5mins sound right) but at that point, the oil isn't even showing anything, i.e. below 50degC. 

 

I'd want the oil to be up to temps before racing anyone off the lights!

 

 

Especially with a direct injection engine and lspi

If you want warm air to be blown to you faster, you want coolant temps to raise quick.

 

The oil level is important of course, but with the thin oils used these days, you won’t harm many things.

If it doesn’t like it, it had to become a fridge not a car 🤣

17 hours ago, fr1nklyn said:

@nicknorman Not sure are you talking about the electric heater behind the pedals but AFAIK it’s fitted only on TDIs when engine and outside temps are low.

In the spec for my new 2023 car it said “auxiliary electric heater” without really saying what that was. But the car warms up much, much quicker than the 2016 car with the same engine, and I read somewhere it is a 1kw electric heater in the cooling system. Quite likely that fitment varies with destination country and year. Presumably it is fitted to the later 280tsi engines only to meet some emissions requirements - ie to get the engine up to working temperature as quickly as possible.

 

It is not the same as the remote control heater you can get in some countries to warm up the car before getting in. Oh and nor is it something that just heats the heater air - the car’s coolant temperature gauge rises much more quickly than the old car.

Edited 30 June, 20241 yr by nicknorman

On 30/06/2024 at 09:08, Blue8793841 said:

One thing to note is it's the oil temp you want to warm up rather than the coolant. Might get to 90 on the coolant but oil temps could still be low.

100%. On my Formentor it also had a gearbox oil temp aswell as engine oil. I do miss that. 

On 02/07/2024 at 22:17, Skodev said:

100%. On my Formentor it also had a gearbox oil temp aswell as engine oil. I do miss that. 

Really? My wife drives a Formentor since end of February, I didn't know that. Where's it 'hidden'? The VC has so much info on it... 😁 

20 hours ago, Bap33 said:

Really? My wife drives a Formentor since end of February, I didn't know that. Where's it 'hidden'? The VC has so much info on it... 😁 

It’s one of the views in the virtual dash. 
if I had the two round dials, I could toggle through the views in the left hand one and it had engine oil, gearbox oil and water temp I think. All three. I found it very useful. I had the VZ2 310 4drive, so not sure if the available views change with model / spec, but can’t think why they would. 👍🏼

Thanks for the tip. I'll have a look at it. But not sure it will be available on ours (VZ 245 Hybrid)

Edited 4 July, 20241 yr by Bap33