Has anyone used this recently and can confirm it to be any good? It's around half the price of castrol ll iv

It appears it used to have VW approval but it's now expired, id hazard a guess it's not changed much and they just don't want to pay again for testing/approval

https://m.autodoc.co.uk/mannol/17844983

Sorry I've never used Mannol, just a few notes offered for perspective.

If you want it then buy it, (if) it meets VW and your requirements and particularly if it's at a good price.

I don't over concern myself about VW approval, other do and might and that's fine. If a reputable oil blender or producer states it meets the requirements I'm fine with that. Many who like thing German (that's not me but I don't dislike anything German that is good) often outside or from outside the UK seem to like Mannol so by numbers and statistics Mannol may have very popular approval particularly with owner of German car makes.

Personally I'd not go with 0w-20 necessarily, a couple of threads already on 508/9 0w-20 oil if you want to follow this up - or just stick with VW dictates and/or what you want and feel you need.

10 minutes ago, nta16 said:

Sorry I've never used Mannol, just a few notes offered for perspective.

If you want it then buy it, (if) it meets VW and your requirements and particularly if it's at a good price.

I don't over concern myself about VW approval, other do and might and that's fine. If a reputable oil blender or producer states it meets the requirements I'm fine with that. Many who like thing German (that's not me but I don't dislike anything German that is good) often outside or from outside the UK seem to like Mannol so by numbers and statistics Mannol may have very popular approval particularly with owner of German car makes.

Personally I'd not go with 0w-20 necessarily, a couple of threads already on 508/9 0w-20 oil if you want to follow this up - or just stick with VW dictates and/or what you want and feel you need.

Hey thanks for the response. I have only really been using 508 the last few years as that's what it says in the service manual for M/Y 2020 onwards with no alternative like the previous years. Would you say its still better to use the previous 504 or 502 standards?

Edit: to add context, it's 1.0mpi engines we have

Edited 11 April, 20251 yr by skinnypete45
Added engine

Several threads on Mannol on Briskoda in different sections with those that use it or swear by it.

BUT,

you need to be sure it is Genuine from a Truster retailer / seller.

But Snide oils come in any brand, Mobile, Castrol etc etc.

Personally i would run my TSI on VW504 00 / 507 00, so 0w 30 FS III or 5w 30 FS III if using long life oil.

Not that i would use Long Life and i would go VW502 00.

As far as 0w 20 FS IV, not for me in a TSI that i owned and was a keeper.

Edited 11 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere

4 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Several threads on Mannol on Briskoda in different sections with those that use it or swear by it.

BUT,

you need to be sure it is Genuine from a Truster retailer / seller.

But Snide oils come in any brand, Mobile, Castrol etc etc.

Personally i would run my TSI on VW504 00 / 507 00, so 0w 30 FS III or 5w 30 FS III if using long life oil.

Not that i would use Long Life and i would go VW502 00.

As far as 0w 20 FS IV, not for me in a TSI that i owned and was a keeper.

I tend to change every year regardless of mileage (always well under 10,000) I have always used 508 as its the only listed one in the manual for my 1.0mpi after M/Y 2020. Is this not best practice? I'm trying to prolongue these engines as long as I can

I've just used Mannol 5W-30 for my recent oil service - it was still certified as VW504-507.

I would prolong my 1.0 MPI engine which really is the same tech as has been in the Citigo since 2009 or in Fabias for 'Long time mister' with OIl.

As far as only 0w 20 FS IV listed, well knock me over with a feather.

11 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

I would prolong my 1.0 MPI engine which really is the same tech as has been in the Citigo since 2009 or in Fabias for 'Long time mister' with OIl.

As far as only 0w 20 FS IV listed, well knock me over with a feather.

My copy of the manual only says after MY 2021 508. Made a mistake when i said 2020

Mine is a mk3 from 2021

That is VW Group for you.

Stick with the recommended oils they went to for getting WLTP results.

Even if not all Authorised Dealers will go with that. They get a certifications and as far as engines, as long as they last out the Manufacturers Warranty. Not that they all do.

Now what about the 1.0 MPIs, 2014-2017 that used VW 504 00 / 507 00, and pre GPF,s or VW / Skoda going 0w20 FS IV before WLTP testing?

the 1.0 MPI in a Citogidoes not have a Q16 code for Variable / Flexible servicing. They had a Fixed Oil & Filter regime.

They are not showing VW508 00 / 509 00 are they?

Edited 11 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere

5 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

That is VW Group for you.

Stick with the recommended oils they went to for getting WLTP results.

Even if not all Authorised Dealers will go with that. They get a certifications and as far as engines, as long as they last out the Manufacturers Warranty. Not that they all do.

Now what about the 1.0 MPIs, 2014-2017 that used VW 504 00 / 507 00, and pre GPF,s or VW / Skoda going 0w 20 FS IV before WLTP testing?

They are not showing VW508 00 / 509 00 are they?

Nah prior to 2021 it shows 504/502 both as potential options. So what actually changed between these years? Was the change in reccomendation just to meet fuel efficiency?

Nail on head.

Under Real World testing, not in real world driving conditions.

16 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Nail on head.

Under Real World testing, not in real world driving conditions

I always change Oil/Filter every year regardless of mileage (I'm always under 10,000), so in this case best option for me is 502/505?

What is the detriment of using long life oils on short intervals? (ie, is 508/509 and 504/507 not worth touching in future?)

Not detrimental using long life oil on fixed service regimes.

Just the oil is pretty crap.

Take VW with a pinch of sodium. Like the detergents in fuels / oil, sodium.

The non Long Life oil is lovely, Full synthetic.

Perfect viscosity for the UK or much of Europe. Perfect even for higher temps and adverse weather / temperatures.

As far as Emissions, really VW do not care about engines they produce that use engine oil like a 2 stroke.

1 hour ago, skinnypete45 said:

Nah prior to 2021 it shows 504/502 both as potential options. So what actually changed between these years? Was the change in reccomendation just to meet fuel efficiency?

... and slightly lower emissions.

Slightly lower emissions during the WLTP Regime or the RDE2.

But is it out on the road, lower fuel use, and lower emissions, and not using more oil while doing it.

Win win win all down the Carbon trail.

Fuel savings to the nth degree of the nth degree I find laughable especially on a modern car that is so heavy, especially with VW, with all the necessaries and extras needed and wanted (if often not used or used once or twice) plus the over large wheels and tyres for fashion, very often only has the driver's or perhaps plus one passenger seat occupied out of 4, 5, 6, 7. A cough, burp or fart transmitted to your right foot and the miniscule mpg saving could be wiped out. 😁

Any 0W-20 oil will be a good oil, whether it's the best or most suitable in a particular application is another matter. Ow-20 is like syrup, for those rough old German engines, when compared to 0w-8, 0w-12, 0w-16 other engines use.

On 11/04/2025 at 10:46, skinnypete45 said:

I tend to change every year regardless of mileage (always well under 10,000)

Probably a good idea, possibly the oil is nearer to needing changing by being under 10k-miles in a year than if the mileage was well over 10k-miles a year. Shorter journeys where the oil doesn't get to say 90c or for not much of the journey isn't best for the oil. Rather than using a biased 90c needle coolant temperature gauge to see when the engine has warmed you're better having the engine oil temperature setting to view and referring to that as instead (as well).

On 11/04/2025 at 12:21, skinnypete45 said:

I always change Oil/Filter every year regardless of mileage (I'm always under 10,000), so in this case best option for me is 502/505?

What is the detriment of using long life oils on short intervals? (ie, is 508/509 and 504/507 not worth touching in future?)

AFAICS, there is no detriment to using long life oil on annual oil servicing plan - apart from (possibly) slightly increased cost of the product - long life oil will possibly be blended to a higher standard / or contains improved additives to allow for the longer service periods.

Provided the oil complies with the required standard, it will be suitable.

Lasting longer means formulated to last longer.

Assuming a higher quality of oil is not necessarily correct.

My reason for disliking Long Life oil is not because it can cost more.

I am more than happy to buy oil not long life that costs the same.

Castrol as VW Recommended was and is nothing special. The French will recommend Total & Toyota even Mobile.

VW Group have a reputation for warranty claims out of the manufacturers warranty, and actually through the Euro 5 generation there were plenty issues with various engines. But then that is as much the components as it is the consumables / Oil.

As a generalisation, I see it as "longlife" for engine oil more of a marketing term, a good oil is a good oil, if the "longlife" oils are truly set for longer use this just means they might be better but then a non-"longlife" oil might be better than a "longlife" oil. A "longlife" oil I'd feel is fine for annual use if it's good oil but I might not use a "longlife" oil if I had high annual mileage. Unless you test the oil in the engine you won't really know how near or far (or perhaps passed) the oil is to needing changing so better a bit soon than a bit late. And as the cost of testing the oil is a good way towards the cost of the oil if you're doing the oil (and filter) changes yourself you might as well renew the oil.