Do you think the penalties were fair and jusfied?

I think the Alonso case was pretty severe and deserved a severe penalty as was and does the Schumacher one.

What are your thoughts?

it's **** don't watch it, most boring sport ever, over-hyped *****

it's **** don't watch it, most boring sport ever, over-hyped *****

Then a thread discussing things that happened in F1 this weekend may not be the best place for you to be posting.

Getting back on topic , I've not seen the clips but Alonso's incident sounds more severe to me. Deliberately cutting someone up then brake testing them is daft enough on the road.

it's **** don't watch it, most boring sport ever, over-hyped *****

Very constructive

It was probably more dangerous in terms of actual happenings but Schuey was also extremely silly to overtake on red flags.

Very constructive

It was probably more dangerous in terms of actual happenings but Schuey was also extremely silly to overtake on red flags.

Typical arrogance of the man. There are rules. He broke them. He gets penalised. End of!!

Fair penalties and the wisdom of having one steward for all races on the calendar is showing.

As for Schuey - he knows very well what he is doing. Over taking one car under red, bad enough but you could excuse him missing the flag, but three is downright irresponsible.

Missed it again - sounds like I've not missed anything good today then, will try to watch the highlights of the race itself tomorrow evening though.

I know Schumacher has some bad traits, surprised he missed 3 reds though and that is bad

Should make for a good race though,

Believe both the penalty's were deserved.

It was good to see him being brought to book over this one, he all to often escapes the Stewards attention although I can't help thinking that some of the thinking behind this decision was to try and keep some excitment in tomorrows race.

It was good to see him being brought to book over this one, he all to often escapes the Stewards attention although I can't help thinking that some of the thinking behind this decision was to try and keep some excitment in tomorrows race.

found it hard not to think the same thing...both racing for points....how interesting that both ended up with the same penalty. However, well deserved given their actions.

I wonder what alonso would do if you cut him up on a roundabout on a public road?

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Both penalties were fair and if I was Schumacher I wouldn't kick up too much because he could have got much worse.

Alonso got 1 sec for the brake test and another 1 sec for overtaking 1 car under yellow.

Schumacher got 2 secs for overtaking 3 cars under red, so the stewards could easily have made that 1 sec for each car, or even worse because overtaking under red is the biggest no-no in motorsport...

But, all that said I would like to see the video footage of Schumachers incident, because it wasn't shown, and during his interview he seemed to be indicating the one of the cars he overtook was Alonso and that Alonso had braked and Schumacher had gone past before he could do anything. Which if true is a bit naughty on Alonso's part...

"But, all that said I would like to see the video footage of Schumachers incident, because it wasn't shown, and during his interview he seemed to be indicating the one of the cars he overtook was Alonso and that Alonso had braked and Schumacher had gone past before he could do anything. Which if true is a bit naughty on Alonso's part..."

But i think youll find there was a car between schuey and alonso, and all though alonson did brake quite quickly, that the car in between (i forget who it was) had no problems in staying behind him.

As usual schuey makes a mistake, and instead of admiting as much, he tries to squirm his way out of it....

It was an amazing race tho!!!

"But, all that said I would like to see the video footage of Schumachers incident, because it wasn't shown, and during his interview he seemed to be indicating the one of the cars he overtook was Alonso and that Alonso had braked and Schumacher had gone past before he could do anything. Which if true is a bit naughty on Alonso's part..."

But i think youll find there was a car between schuey and alonso, and all though alonson did brake quite quickly, that the car in between (i forget who it was) had no problems in staying behind him.

As usual schuey makes a mistake, and instead of admiting as much, he tries to squirm his way out of it....

It was an amazing race tho!!!

Agreed. I have seen the same footage now and Schumacher might have had a case if the BMW that was directly behind Alonso couldn't have stopped either... As it was it's just Schumacher failing to admit he screwed up... Again...

I wonder what alonso would do if you cut him up on a roundabout on a public road?

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He would probably react very much like he did in the previous race, when Michael nearly cut him up in the pit stops. Radio: " DID YOU SEE WHAT MICHAEL DID?" Response from pit wall: "Yes we saw". In other words, stop whinging and get on with it! Priceless.

I agree, MS has got away with too much over the years. Too little too late maybe, but inspired the conspiracy theorists though!

On the subject of penalties , I liked the 2 second addition to qualifying times rather than just demotion a fixed number of places as happens if they change an engine.

It's a genuine penalty , but if you do drive an absolute blinder it need not ruin your weekend and you can still qualify highly