I'm about to order my O2 2.0 TDI DSG business edition (in Holland this is Elegance + Xenon+maxidot+16"alloys+leather steering wheel/parking brake+full PDC)

The car shifts so extremely fast that it's unlikely that people can do this with a manual as well. And yet, when looking at the 0-62 times, the time for de DSG is the same as for the manual (9.6 seconds). What i noticed when testdriving the DSG, is that the first few meters, the car has not enough revs to pick up quickly. Is this where the manual wins? Is there a way to quickly accelerate?

Hi,

I thought the same thing, there is no way with the standard car, I have basically the same model. What I do is just lift the brake and you will feel the engine bite, then floor it, if you try to just take your foot off the brake and floor it you have a slight delay. It is not the cure but it helps.

yep, I wait till the car is rolling a bit, then gun it

From a standing start there is a delay before the turbo cuts in and i think this is the trouble - however once the turbo is working this gearbox is unbeatable, especially at speed on the motorways.

I think if you were to launch the manual from idle speed you'd see the DSG car was slightly quicker.

Advatage of the manual is the ability to lauch at 3000 rpm

The DSG has a launch control which isnt documented. I'm not sure if its the case in the diesel although i have tried it and its noticable. basically do the following

Put the car in sports mode

deactivate traction control ESP

press your left foot hard on the brake

build up the revvs with your right foot

let go of the brake.

it works ok in mine so should be ok in yours too

Dave

The DSG has a launch control which isnt documented. I'm not sure if its the case in the diesel although i have tried it and its noticable. basically do the following

Put the car in sports mode

deactivate traction control ESP

press your left foot hard on the brake

build up the revvs with your right foot

let go of the brake.

it works ok in mine so should be ok in yours too

Dave

I wanted a car, not a bloody space shuttle, they should fix this

Ferrari F430 launch control method is the same

The DSG has a launch control which isnt documented. I'm not sure if its the case in the diesel although i have tried it and its noticable. basically do the following

Put the car in sports mode

deactivate traction control ESP

press your left foot hard on the brake

build up the revvs with your right foot

let go of the brake.

it works ok in mine so should be ok in yours too

Dave

Would be exactly what i want. Can someone else confirm this?

Apparently to get a quick start with the DSG you need to start in first gear manually...as opposed to having in Drive.

Was a monthly update in What Car with their long term Passat PD DSG.....same observations were seen with their Altea PD140 DSG.

The above just seems to be the tactic of getting away quickly in a standard auto, which is what I'd suggest anyway. You don't have to disable to traction/ESP systems, but the car will only work against you anyway by reducing power. If you were going for an uber quick start in a manual you'd probably do the same anyway, no?

As I said, I'd employ the same tactic as I'd use in a std auto - build the revs to about 3k with your left foot on the brake, then slide your left foot off the brake pedal. Zoom zoom! :drivesaf:

Steve

Does this actually work? can anyone with DSG confirm it?

I'd have though the throttle would be cut electronically if you apply the brakes and throttle at the same time as in all VAG 'drive by wire' vehicles?

Same thought here. When testdriving, i held my foot on the brake, and flooring it does not make the car rev. It just makes the car want to go forward, but the brakes don't allow that. Must admit, have not tried this in 'S'.

just tried with a friends Passat 2.0 TDI DSG

- turned off ESP

- put it in 'S'

- press and hold brake

- press accelerator: no revving. (~1200 RPM, motor management cuts of, car accelerates very slow after releasing the brakes).

- turned off ESP

- put it in manual mode, selecting first gear

- press and hold brake

- press accelerator: no revving. (~1200 RPM, motor management cuts of, car accelerates very slow after releasing the brakes).

This does not seem to be the way.

edit: typo

Clearly the relationship to the Ferrari F430 launch control has now been lost

What happens if you rev the nuts off it in neutral with the hand brake on then select 1st as you release the brake?

I didn't think DSG had a "fast start" mode a la BMW SMG.

My comments were just reporducing what What Car? said in this month copy and what they have observed from other cars with DSG.....for a quicker...and this doesn't necessarily mean a Traffic light race start....start, they suggest you start off in first using manual mode.

Clearly the relationship to the Ferrari F430 launch control has now been lost

What happens if you rev the nuts off it in neutral with the hand brake on then select 1st as you release the brake?

not sure whether my friend will allow meto do so with his car... :P

The only ref.I've seen to DSG launch control being described in practice based on personal experience, was Honest John in his road test of the Audi TT 3.2 V6.

Not all DSG-equipped cars may have the electronics present or if present they may not be enabled. VAGCOM anyone? :eek:

Yeah this launch control thing is great for the Audi TT 3.2 but it wont work in an Octy because pressing the brake cuts the accelerator. I posted recently about a situation where a DSG car couldn't put a boat on a trailer across a boat yard for the same reason. It just couldn't get the revs up. A manual 1600 petrol Lada stepped in to save the day.

and that's exactly what's frightening me. I've got a boat as well, and when getting the boat out of the water I need revs. I asked the question to the dutch VAG organization, but recieved no clear answer.

Someone here maybe? What about:

- handbrake on

- anti slip regulation off (can this be done in an Octavia?)

- first gear

- rev it, allow spin, while disengaging handbrake

would this work, just for pull-boat-out-of-the-water-situations?

Yeah this launch control thing is great for the Audi TT 3.2 but it wont work in an Octy because pressing the brake cuts the accelerator.

I did not suggest it would work for an Octy, as you might have realised had you read the second paragraph of my post.

I did not suggest it would work for an Octy, as you might have realised had you read the second paragraph of my post.

Just re-inforcing your argument. Plus it was a pre-cursor to my comment on towing.

Has anyone tried holding the car with the handbrake rather than the foot brake?

Someone needs to get a DSG equiped courtesy/demo car for the day and give it a try.

that way you avoid damaging your own cars!!

mine will rev to about 1500rpm while holding with the footbrake