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Just interested to know whether many of you vRS owners have experinced wheel spin when shifting to second, when driving in a more exciting than practical manner? I've had it twice and was shocked both times, I guess it's the torque!

It will wheel spin in third, well the demo car that I had did :)

Yup. :D Although mines 90hp over standard so does it quite often.

Hi barney

Yep, I've had wheelspin in second quite a few times.

First day out the road was wet, and I got wheelspin in 2nd and 3rd cos I had no idea just how much torque these puppies had!

ahhhhhh :-)

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Bl00dy hell, I didn't realise that... that's mad! It's must be a nightmare with a remap!

As Jason has just confirmed!!

Im pretty sure the VRS will spin its wheels on second when my 1.4 16V does that on 225/35 tyres :rofl: :rofl:

I can feel my wallet twitching every time I plant my foot in 2nd, but its rather fun to have the front wandering around on bad surfaces. Ive had in 3rd aswell but that was only on pretty bad standing water, was a bit of a worry when I went to overtake someone and sat there for what felt like ages spinning the fron wheels!

Yep, mine will spin in second often, if wet it spins frequently in third.

With my Fab VRS, its quite easy to get wheel spin in 3rd in the damp if you accelerate hard causing the weight to transfer back to the rear wheels and change into 3rd with the traction control off.

Anyone can floor an accelerator peddle, its much harder to control wheelspin and obtain max acceleration but quite fun trying.

30 years ago I used to go to Santa Pod and watch guys in dragsters controlling 2000BHP with their feet. That took skill. I think nowadays the power is way up but the clutch control is all done electronically - the skill is more with the technicians I suppose.

Jules

If you've got the room you can get some really good lift-off oversteer too by planting at lowish revs in 2nd then steering hard and lifting then planting again - seems to do it more easily than anything else I've driven.

Best not to do it on the road or by anything hard though :rofl:

Mine will wheel spin in 3rd....:) .........Need new front rubber though [ About 3mm left ].:(

Wheel spin can be reduced with uprated suspension (to minimise the weight shift to the back of the car) :D That and getting some decent tyres ;)

Chris

Wheel spin can be reduced with uprated suspension (to minimise the weight shift to the back of the car) :D That and getting some decent tyres ;)

Chris

That could be why I do really struggle to spin up 3rd gear. When it happens its usually wet and that means its not really safe to be planting the throttle. It very very rarely happens in the dry. I would prefer to put 100% of the power into grip and not just spinning. I think its safer and more productive. :D Oh, and in addition to the above, semi slicks are good tyres. I'm having a little fun with the slicks still on my car from the ring trip. "Eventually" I'll put the 17s back on. ;)

Wheel spin can be reduced with uprated suspension (to minimise the weight shift to the back of the car) :D That and getting some decent tyres ;)

Chris

Thank God for that ! :) I've noticed my front tyres waning away since the AMD map (170 ish BHP) and I easily wheelspin in 2nd (3rd in the damp).

The tyres are Bridgestones and the fronts are near their tread wear indicators whilst the rears still have 7mm tread.

Mine spins often as standard but getting maped at the end of september so will be having even more fun by then.

mine has over 200lbft and won't spin in second no matter what i try :confused:

mine has over 200lbft and won't spin in second no matter what i try :confused:

:rolleyes: But one has a nice little bit of metal going down underneath the car into a nice box of gubbins which applies power to the rear wheels too. :P :P

mine has over 200lbft and won't spin in second no matter what i try :confused:

Sounds like you need more power then, mate :P:rofl:

Chris

Sounds like you need more power then' date=' mate :P:rofl:

Chris[/quote']

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

:D

:rofl: Fair enough response :thumbup:

I've got a Quaife LSD fitted to mine which helps a reasonable amount when planting the accelerator during cornering, but the vRS (Furb) frankly just has a darn heavy engine and insufficient grip.

4WD would help although I don't think anyone (??) has fitted that to the vRS (yet??) (if so please post a guide :D ).

Suspension uprates + good tyres are deffo worth it. Standard, with ESP on, it's reasonably ok. With ASR I found wheelspin much worse much quicker for some reason. Now remapped even mildly it will spin the wheels badly if you don't take a little care :) - esp in the wet - The SC IIs that came with the car were easier to spin then the QY GSD3s, the difference in the wet between them is amazing.

@bengie - so what kinda power are you aiming for :o

Out of interest, all these reports of spinning (esp. in third gear), are you lot switching traction control off or leaving it on???

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I never turn mine off but have never experinced third gear wheel spin (in my own car!)

Mine wheelspins in 4th in the wet!! :D But that's what happens when you're on cheapo 185 profile tyres. :rolf:

Scary torque steer when the wheels bite though.

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I've had bad torque steer a couple of times, I'm a bit more careful when accelerating around corners now!

only have low expectations myself. only want about 300 :)

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