Doesn't seem to be that bad a price, afterall you do get a dock and widgets errrr... I mean a sidebar and gadgets...

I just don't know where gates boys get there ideas from!

Doesn't seem to be that bad a price, afterall you do get a dock and widgets errrr... I mean a sidebar and gadgets...

I just don't know where gates boys get there ideas from!

they must have stole...errr...copied...errr...been influenced by konfabulator

but ofcourse no one has ever copied a microsoft idea have they

but ofcourse no one has ever copied a microsoft idea have they

Lets back it up some examples...

One word iBloks

Lets back it up some examples...

One word iBloks

Spotlight = Windows Search - Apple "borrowed" this from MS, but were able to get it out the door much more quickly

Time Machine = Volume Shadow Copy or "Previous Versions" which was available in Windows Server 2003

Spaces = Virtual Desktop Manager which was one of the downloadable Powertoys in about 2001

These are the type of thing that Jobs will tout as all new

The joys of you employer having a site licence for all things Microsoft which will cover me at home!

The OEM version of OS X comes with the Macintosh as does iLife usually.

You can get Upgrade pricing if you have a previous version. IMHO the real killer is the 5 license family pack that was £129 last we bought a MacOS

Spotlight = Windows Search - Apple "borrowed" this from MS, but were able to get it out the door much more quickly

Time Machine = Volume Shadow Copy or "Previous Versions" which was available in Windows Server 2003

Spaces = Virtual Desktop Manager which was one of the downloadable Powertoys in about 2001

These are the type of thing that Jobs will tout as all new

But OSX isn't available in retail and OEM versions is it?

No idea never bothered to look (the attitude that has won M$ so many users). Hence why I only compared the retail boxed versions

Add to that the fact that Mac's support all of the latest cutting edge games from ..................... about 2 years ago

It's more the other way around.. the games developers not rushing to port their games to the mac platform, which we know will be down to

...Maybe I am just used to PC's, but I am finding the Mac tedious and hard work...

Err, I don't think you could describe the OS as tedious and hard work, I think you need to use it a little more...

As for Safari, I'm not a huge fan myself, I use FireFox.

Err, I don't think you could describe the OS as tedious and hard work, I think you need to use it a little more...

As for Safari, I'm not a huge fan myself, I use FireFox.

Surely using it a little more is more effort.

Anyways I can't see what the issue is with the price. It's about right and I would expect anyone at home settling for the home premium version. No use having ultimate just for the sake of it.

Mac os may be cheaper, but then stickle bricks are cheaper then lego, but not as good.

Yep but OS X is IMHO better than windows.

I'm a linux user most the time myself now, but also use windows and the parents have a cheap little mac.

Think I'll just run Vista RC1 plus updates until July next year, then pick up a cheaper OEM Copy

Surely using it a little more is more effort.

Anyways I can't see what the issue is with the price. It's about right and I would expect anyone at home settling for the home premium version. No use having ultimate just for the sake of it.

Mac os may be cheaper, but then stickle bricks are cheaper then lego, but not as good.

Yeah!!!! what he says

The thing is, most "home" users are not going to rush out and buy it, it's going to come in on the oem build for Dell, HP, PC World stuff etc etc, so the pricing is much of a muchness really.

With the Mac, I am just used to Windows, everything works and is second nature, I have the command line and easy access to scripting. It's probably all there in the Mac somewhere but it's just a bit to fluffy and cuddly.

I have not come across a Mac in a corporate network for sometime, in fact the only large scale use I have seen of them is in uni's, Schools and printer / publisher's.

I'm not a Mac hater, I suppose I am happy to stick with what I know, as I have enought to learn with Exchange 2k7 and SMS4 just round the corner

Mac's have just become very popular where i work.

I know what you are saying about being familiar, but Vista and office for vista won't actually be that familiar so to speak.

Mac's have just become very popular where i work.

I know what you are saying about being familiar, but Vista and office for vista won't actually be that familiar so to speak.

They are when you have been using them for the last 6 months or so m8

Office for Vista didn't realsie that was out yet, I know i got some of it but TBH the MSDN has been unchecked for a while

Office for Vista didn't realsie that was out yet, I know i got some of it but TBH the MSDN has been unchecked for a while

office 2007 m8

I should check that large pile of CDs at some point i guess lol

Maybe I am just used to PC's, but I am finding the Mac tedious and hard work, so much so it may be moving onto it's third owner in as many months.

If you are/were a PC 'power-user' then you probably will not like the Mac until you have used it long enough to get used to a different way of doing things. It all depends whether you feel it's worth putting the effort in. (probably not, from your post)

I reckon the average home user would be better off with a Mac (after the inevitable getting-used-to-it period). The advantages would be nowhere near as applicable to IT pro's and I guess it would need to offer major advantages to convince you to re-learn all that previous knowledge.

That Mac Mini would make a great little home server though.