Just wondered.....

I'm not really keen on the idea myself, but I do fancy a certain set of wheels that are ET48......Ideally it would be a 13mm spacer that was required, but I reckon I'd probably get away with a bit less.

Standard wheels are 7x16 and the ones I'm looking at are 7.5x17, so ET48 gives 19mm less clearance on the inside, with the outer face being 7mm less "sticky out".

A set of 10mm spacers would redress the balance somewhat as it would make 9mm less on the inside edge........not a million miles away from fitting the correct offset wheels.

My concerns would be stud length.....is it enough, and also the extra stress on the wheel hubs..........cause for concern?

Just wondered like!!

I'd say get some wheels with the correct offset, so many to choose from.

i reckon you should buy the proper wheels too! but if you do decide to buy some spacers, make sure you buy longer wheel bolts too, most alloy wheel specialist can supply these.

I run 15mm eibach wheel spacers on the back of mine and they are fine with longer bolts, if you do want to get some make sure they have the spiggot ring on them (eibach have them on from 5mm up)this will mean the wheel will have more support

I run 15mm eibach wheel spacers on the back of mine and they are fine with longer bolts, if you do want to get some make sure they have the spiggot ring on them (eibach have them on from 5mm up)this will mean the wheel will have more support

WAY off topic. Do you have your Jabba plot handy? Would like to compare to mine.

Oh, and any chance Mike fancies another remap challenge on mine if I get a bigger turbo?

ON topic: I'd like 15mm spacers for the rear too.

lol yer i will try and get one loaded on the injectors have run out on it at the moment so they will be next, and maby abit of propane:D

Still off topic. Sounds like your having fun luke.

i too would like to see a dyno plot.

the power graph sorry its abit blurry i had to downsize it to get it on the forum

Nice one! Gives me confidence when I give mine it's new turbo soon. Going for a serious high volume one all being well, and hopefully with standard injectors and propane, perhaps push for 260+bhp. Sounds like I might need to start thinking about the injectors too though. :eek:

, if you do want to get some make sure they have the spiggot ring on them (eibach have them on from 5mm up)this will mean the wheel will have more support

:iagree:

i've seen a mk2 gold sheer it's wheel bolts off on a corner beofre now becuase the wheel spacers didn't have a spigot in the centre.... the other thing to not e also particularly in the case of the mk2 golf is that some of the factory fitted wheels came with plastic inserts on the inside of the wheel. but most people just throw them away, but they are there for a reason..

without the spigot your're relying solely on the tension of the wheel bolts to locate the wheel centrally on the hub/brake disc/drum..... and what with the added stresses of fitting larger and wider wheels it can lead to problems with the wheel bolts snapping off

I'd quite like to get 10 or 15mm ones for the rear of the Beeza, to fatten the stance, so to speak! But I'm concerned about safety and fit also.

I'd definitely avoid those 'universal' job, recipe for disaster if you ask me. I know H&R make them, along with Eibach mentioned earlier.

Steve

fitting spacers on the rear wheels is ok, but they can have an adverse affect on the handling... also i buts more load on the wheel bearings

They'd also be married up to a rear Jabba ARB in time - not sure if that's a recommended combo?

Steve

They'd also be married up to a rear Jabba ARB in time - not sure if that's a recommended combo?

Steve

think of the wheel as a kind of lever!!! the further away it is from the centre of the car, the more leverage it has over the rear axle beam..... so the understeer happy chassis become twice as understeer happy!!!

p.s that was a really bad way of explaining it wasn't it??

well i have got the spacers with the ARB and it makes the car feel so much more positive,

why do you think gokarts have the rear wheels further out than the front

why do you think gokarts have the rear wheels further out than the front

yeah but a go-kart has a solid axle which wont bent like a car one will.

think of the wheel as a kind of lever!!! the further away it is from the centre of the car, the more leverage it has over the rear axle beam..... so the understeer happy chassis become twice as understeer happy!!!

p.s that was a really bad way of explaining it wasn't it??

It's a moment/leverage thing yes. But the thing that's providing the support for the rear end is the spring(s) and any ARB.

Any dynamic changes in geometry would be different with wheel spacers and any bending/flexing of suspension components and bushes would be different.

The precise effect depends on the suspension "system". For a normal wishbone system, it has the effect of reducing spring rate on a per-bump basis. i.e. hit a 50mm bump and the spring gets compressed slightly less if the wheel's further out.

J.

well i have got the spacers with the ARB and it makes the car feel so much more positive,

why do you think gokarts have the rear wheels further out than the front

Good to hear

Which ones did you go for and how much did they set you back?

Steve

Well i went for the Eibachs because of the quality, as for cost they were about

That's pretty reasonable, but is that with any kind of discount?! I've just spotted your forum name and the penny's dropped

Steve

That's pretty reasonable, but is that with any kind of discount?! I've just spotted your forum name and the penny's dropped

Steve

lol

Yes the usual discount would also apply to that price.

Luke